Strongest Autoattack: Sword or Dagger?

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Posted by: Morbyd.3761

Morbyd.3761

I haven’t seen this question answered before.

Which of the two has the strongest autoattack?

I know that CnD > Backstab > AA rotation wins out, but for pure autoattack is Dagger still higher DPS?

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Posted by: Yuujin.1067

Yuujin.1067

Against a single target, yes.

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Posted by: bobross.5034

bobross.5034

Sword gets higher damage single strikes…dagger hits faster. not sure how the final math works out on dps…sword is aoe though. Also dagger auto-attack chain has poison. Sword causes weakness, which is nice defensively, but doesn’t damage.

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Posted by: Excalibur.9748

Excalibur.9748

Sword AA also causes cripple which is nice offensively and dagger AA regens your endurance which is nice defensively.

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Posted by: randomfightfan.4091

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dagger has higher single target dps even if you aren’t cnd backstabbing or heartseekering. Problem with sword is that they have nothing else beside the auto attack for damage buff (pistol whip doesn’t do higher dps). Since most threats that actually matter are single targets, dagger wins.

Oh and poison on dagger also causes weakness if traited.

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Posted by: Evilek.5690

Evilek.5690

Sword AA DMG=Dagger AA DMG.

Sword

Pros:
*Aoe DMG
*Cryple+weaknes(target speed and DMG reducet by 50%)
*With dagger is strong vs boons enemy.
*Sneake attack-long daze
*Aoe dmg + Signet of Melice or life steal foor = full Hp all time ( in dungeons)

Cons:
*without executioner ability
*Sneak attack causes minor damage

Dagger

Pros:
*AA apply poison and regen stamina
*execution ability
*Sneak attack make heavi DMG

Cons
*only single target DMG
*weak condition
*weak vs boons target(reataliation is nigtmare vs fast attack)

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Posted by: Ghostwolf.9863

Ghostwolf.9863

I find S/D weak currently, it may be viable for tournaments using a
dodge spam boonrip GC build, it’s able to contest points afterall.

- The +1 on reveal as well as the earlier nerf of tactical strike(in spvp)
made it somewhat useless for other than interrupting stomps and BP>HS.
- The removal of the stunbreaker and the pathing nerf of IS>SR made a hard hit on
our mobility and damage uptime, especially against classes where we need our damage like guardians, engineers, warrior and engineer.
- The nerf of mug.

Leaves us only with the FS>LS buff.
Spamming evades and boon theft, yay.

The auto attack and FS/LS dps is currently too low in active pvp (evades counted)
unless playing a GC build with either 25/30 or 10/30/0/0/30, 10/30/0/30/0 works pretty
fine too.

Oh, and pistol whip, stun>1 hit and the target can walk away while you swing in the air
for same damage as your autoattack, so stronk skill. BUT! IT EVADES! yay, inb4 it ends
and you get knocked and kittened over.

Well, anyways, I loved S/D ever since I started playing GW2, and will probably stick
around with it until it gets nerfed even more.

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Posted by: Polaritie.4851

Polaritie.4851

dagger has higher single target dps even if you aren’t cnd backstabbing or heartseekering. Problem with sword is that they have nothing else beside the auto attack for damage buff (pistol whip doesn’t do higher dps). Since most threats that actually matter are single targets, dagger wins.

Oh and poison on dagger also causes weakness if traited.

With the nerf to the trait, you get more weakness uptime from sword.

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Posted by: randomfightfan.4091

randomfightfan.4091

dagger has higher single target dps even if you aren’t cnd backstabbing or heartseekering. Problem with sword is that they have nothing else beside the auto attack for damage buff (pistol whip doesn’t do higher dps). Since most threats that actually matter are single targets, dagger wins.

Oh and poison on dagger also causes weakness if traited.

With the nerf to the trait, you get more weakness uptime from sword.

Is true, but dagger also has leap finisher. If weakness is such a big deal, get a poison field (so many of them from many classes) and leap through it. Weakness on the enemy for 8s (last I checked). Generally weakness won’t be anything special but it will be nice to have when it’s there. Raw dps will always be better than things like cripple, weakness, chill, and whatnot in pve except in those few niche circumstances where you need the control over the damage. Sadly, those moments are few and far between.

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