Guild Wars 2

Fixing forum bug.

Doggie.3184:

So with recent changes this would make a lot more sense.

Leeching Venoms goes hand in hand with the theme of Lotus Poison, Potent Poison and Dagger Training traits in Deadly Arts since it’s all related to poisoning your weapons. Revealed Training is related to the stealth mechanic, which Shadow Arts is supposed to augment. Swapping these two positions would allow venom support users to decide weather they want to use a stealth build or an evasion build.

Really late here but I actually really like this idea.

DeceiverX.8361:

Ging.6485:

They already killed Rev’s raid viability because of WvW.

This has already been proven as mathematically false. People seriously overreacted because something blatantly OP got nerfed into being reasonable.

Hell, if it exposes the rest of the power creep from HoT and gets it nerfed, win-win for everyone.

Raids tend to be a high resistance environment for everyone aside from the heavily experienced. It’s the only game type in GW2 where this is the case. Because of this, and because of the time investment that it requires, people will flock to the path of least resistance. This has already been seen in fractals with all Necro groups. Are they theoretically the fastest? No. But they have by far the least chance of failure.

Right now, Thieves have DPS comparable to Eles and very little to offer in terms of utility over Eles in a raid setting. If you do something to nerf that DPS to the point where taking an Ele is considered a solid upgrade then thieves will no longer be accepted in pick up groups, which is how the majority of the community raids.

This would be a really nice change, and they’re both 2nd tier traits so the swap shouldn’t be that hard. +1

Anet pls

i am fine with change buffing damage in a def line is good idea for thief. as shadow art is right now honestly no reason to run it.

Please! ArenaNet DO NOT DO THIS. First and foremost it will be a heavy nerf to PvE thief damage. Power Dagger/Dagger will be a dead weapon set since revealed training is the only thing that’s keeping that viable. If it’s moved to shadow arts, your choices will be drop Deadly arts entirely (no wut..lol), drop critical strikes (nearly equally stupid), or the worst choice drop Daredevil (% damage buffs so unlikely). We are already are marginalized DPS wise by Guardian and Elementalist. Furthermore, Gorseval and KC make you perma-revealed so this is the only thing keeping Thief even slightly viable in those fights.

I believe the correct changes if this should be a thing is.
A) Make Revealed training Baseline
B) Roll into “potent poison” grandmaster trait
C) Replace one of the minors with this trait, e.g Serpent’s touch