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Posted by: Calysto.7469

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So, I’m tired of Dagger/Dagger and Dagger/Pistol, Pistol/Dagger builds and am really wanting to give Sword/Dagger a shot, but have no idea how to play it or even spec it, gear it, etc. Have been browsing the forums, hoping to find a build listed for it but haven’t really found one. Was thinking of doing the 0/20/30/20/0 build that’s built around stealth, and just using the gear and such I had for that, but would really like to know what some tried and true good builds are. Thanks to anyone who actually has some that can help!

EDIT Just came back to the game after 5-6 months off, so no clue what all has really changed, just wanting to try and get back into the swing of things on my Thief when I’m not on my Ranger, and wanting to give S/D a shot.

EDIT 2 This is intended for solo/small group roaming.

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Posted by: Pavel.8531

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0/20/30/20/0 is indeed a very good choice for a S/D build. My build was like that (currently trying out a 0/30/20/20/0 s/p build) and with several valk pieces and rest zerkers you can put quite the hurt, while still being able to take hits and engage in prolonged fights.

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Posted by: stinkypants.8419

stinkypants.8419

+1 0/20/30/20/0 at least for Wv3. I run SB in the offhand.

Good stuff.

(Alvyn | Crystal Desert )

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Posted by: Calysto.7469

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Having just come back to the game, started trying that 0/20/30/20/0 spec with d/p and really just didn’t care for the pistol offhand. Figured it was a very good spec to stick with, but wasn’t really sure what all I needed to switch up gear wise to better suit the sword style combat. I think I’m mostly using berserker gear and sitting around the 12-13k hp range. Does that seem to be a pretty good spot for sword’s sorta prolonged skirmishing style?

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Nope, you need more, so you are able to take an occasional burst – somewhere between 14 and 17k. Compensate the precision loss (because of the valk pieces) with food/oil/stacks if needed.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

stay in spvp….kinda the only spot u can use it. unless u get the rare 1 v 1 chnace in wvw. just my 2 c

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Posted by: stinkypants.8419

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stay in spvp….kinda the only spot u can use it. unless u get the rare 1 v 1 chnace in wvw. just my 2 c

It’s fine in Wv3, just IS in and out and get some crits on FS/LS, you’ll do fine.

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Posted by: Calysto.7469

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Posted by: Pavel.8531

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Calysto, remember this is “sustained dps” build(with IS + CnD for downing low hp enemies in zerg). That said – you don’t need CS I. If I were you, I’d pick VIII with 2 signets. Also – Infil Signet + Quick Recovery… you definitely don’t need SA V (and IV is the best thing ever).
About your skills… the only thing out of place (I am using slightly different utilities, but I don’t have anything against these) is your elite. You will be opening up with IS, which is a 1s immobilise. Basilisk is redundant, unless you want to go full Lyssa set. Just keep in mind, daggerstorm works nice with infiltrator strike/shadow return.
What I didn’t mention(there were some things, but what you listed works too), I did so on purpose – play, experiment, see what works best for you and what you think if changed will work better… Make a skill/trait build that will work best with your playstyle.
P.S. Just trust me, SA IV trait is the best thing ever :P

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Posted by: Calysto.7469

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So change out CS1 for 2, and CS7 for 8, and change SA5 for 4? For the elite, I wasn’t really sure what to take, but I generally have Daggerstorm equipped just simply because it’s awesome. Tested my setup a bit out in WvW and could handle 1v1’s and 1v2’s, and just intend for this to be a decent solo roaming/small group WvW build, but with viability when mixed into having to go with zergs for siege. Thanks for the suggestions Pavel.

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Posted by: stinkypants.8419

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Here’s what I’m running… just a little bit different, more mobility and a couple of other things.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=Ve;4VwkZ0U5FOVd0;9;5JTJ;252-43A58;24;5rSrSrS6-m-FvF6-6;3WV_WeXj2qZv48Z-870i-7aNX8-k0;3R;9;9;9;4k-kkH

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http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=-e;4RwkZ07-FOVd0;9;5JTJ;252-53A18;2CJ-F;2V19cV19cn-FvF6-6;2VU-ZWq1i214u42kVJV2q;5cW5P-V5;9;9;9;9;95k3E
^My full build with foods and infusions I use (they are wvw +5 power ones, no such in the calculator so I used the “normal” +5 power ones) and everything. I switch the signet while running from 1 place to another. With full precision stacks you hit 69% crit chance.

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