Guild Wars 2

Hi
Is it possible to have a good Sword and Pistol setup in WvW?
I’ve trying thief for a bit now, and my favorite weapon is still the shortbow, but that one I already know I can’t do it my main weapon, but I was looking for other options beside D/D, legit options

And even a range thief with P/P is it possible too? I’m new with the class and pretty much all the thief’s I see use D/D and shortbow…

Yes, as long as you don’t fight necromancers, guardians, or anything with retaliation. Or Zergs.

Daecollo.9578:

Yes, as long as you don’t fight necromancers, guardians, or anything with retaliation. Or Zergs.

Well that restric a lot what i can do with it
Gosh I can’t I just main shortbow? bah every class should be able to main the weapons they have at disposal
All I see is D/D here, D/D there, I like the shortbow, but beside zerg and PvE people say that is useless

I don’t like the Ranger as much as the Thief to go and make one for just the sake of using a bow

Why can’t you “main” shortbow?

Daecollo.9578:

Yes, as long as you don’t fight necromancers, guardians, thieves, warriors, mesmers, engineers, elementalists, rangers or mobs. Or Zergs.

Fix’d for you

mPascoal.4258:

Daecollo.9578:

Yes, as long as you don’t fight necromancers, guardians, or anything with retaliation. Or Zergs.

Well that restric a lot what i can do with it
Gosh I can’t I just main shortbow? bah every class should be able to main the weapons they have at disposal
All I see is D/D here, D/D there, I like the shortbow, but beside zerg and PvE people say that is useless

I don’t like the Ranger as much as the Thief to go and make one for just the sake of using a bow

Don’t listen to him, he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Ever.

Both S/P and P/P are perfectly viable. If you use P/P though, you’ll need to find a good place to get condi removal from.

Quells.2498:

Why can’t you “main” shortbow?

I main a Shortbow. I also alt a Greatsword and a Longbow.

Sword pistol used to be pretty powerful but then they nerfed pistol whip damage so now the auto attack can easily out damage pistol whip however I’m not sure whakittens like now. Pistol Pistol right now needs a bit of tweaking from what I’ve heard it P/P doesn’t have allot of mobility

TBH S/D might help you out more than S/P because PW keeps you in place too long. Also S/D is really good against boon bunkers. P/P is just crap anywhere you go imo, but ive seen some people put down with P/P just dont get caught up with P/P cuz then you have no way out.

Quells.2498:

Why can’t you “main” shortbow?

What one Thief of my guild said to me, is that Thief can’t main Shortbow because they can’t win 1vs1 using shortbow, because Rangers or other ranged classes are more powerfull at range than the Shortbow

Daecollo.9578:

Yes, as long as you don’t fight necromancers, guardians, or anything with retaliation. Or Zergs.

Necromancers are awful against P/P. I run P/P on my Thief sometimes in tPvP specifically for killing them, along with Mesmers and other Thieves.

@mPascoal I think it’s best to ask yourself what role you enjoy playing first and then think about all this other stuff. I personally like to cause chaos by killing yaks, contesting waypoints, playing sentry, etc so I have a high mobility/survival build which shortbow is perfect for.

http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|c.1g.h2.a.1g.h14|a.1g.h2.a.1g.h1l|1p.a7.1p.a7.1p.a7.1p.a7.1p.a7.1p.a7|1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67|a3.u35b.0.u39c.0|0.0|59.5f.5c.5q.5u|e

This should work well enough, tweak it as you deem fit.

The idea behind having mug is that you can hit basi or dev, swap to S/P, begin PW and just as the stun strike hits mug to them for a burst. I used to run something similar s/tPvP with less acrobatics and more deadly arts and be able to burst anyone down quite well thanks to mug.

Just remember not to dodge during unload or you’ll cancel it.

Demented Lemur.7861:

they nerfed pistol whip damage so now the auto attack can easily out damage pistol whip

This isn’t true, they’re roughly equal DPS with auto attack pulling slightly ahead, and can swap places depending on traits. I agree that PW needs some help in one way or another, but I keep watching this fish story get bigger and bigger. The fact is that PW has evade, hit volume, and interrupt while auto attack has conditions, mobility, and initiative efficiency. The damage difference is negligible on paper and mostly relies on whether you can keep the enemy in place for your channel with PW and whether you can land your third hit in auto chains (if you miss those, your DPS is terrible due to backloading).

The problem with P/P is that it lacks significant damage, lacks mobility, and (thanks to having to spend all of your initiative to do damage) lacks utility too. It isn’t good at anything, and almost everything it can actually do is done better by other weapon sets. You’re better off embracing the fact that you’re a thief and can dictate range with your melee sets than trying to make P/P work, especially since it is actually easier to stay in range with melee sets than it is with P/P thanks to the set’s terrible range control and mobility.

Finally, there’s no reason you can’t main shortbow. It isn’t a great dueling weapon just due to the nature of its AE attacks, but it is pretty amazing at everything else.