Guild Wars 2

So last night I’m grinding away some world events, there’s a veteran eagle griffin at the end of the 2 event loop in my event grind area so I decide to go “what the hell”

I drop caltrops, I use take root, I then use C+D and sneak attack with my pistol…BAM I’ve stacked 25 bleeds on my own. I thought…no way, this has to be a fluke so I go through my quest loop again and when I come up to the Veteran Eagle Griffin I do it again…25 bleeds. I actually top out at the 25 cap because I can use C+D and Hide in the Shadows to stack even more bleeds (I’d probably cap at 30-33 bleeds).

Why am I posting this? To demonstrate that the cap simply isn’t enough even for solo PvE. We need a better bleed system to help thieves and necromancers badly.

Wait 25 bleeds from that? Caltrops gets you up to 10 alone if I recall correctly, and sneak attack gives 5.

I’ve gotten 25 stacks of bleeding before as a thief, but never that easily.

Agreed on the cap though, I see the reason for a cap on boons like might and such, but why do condition classes have to deal with this?

The best part is, any bleed removal skill can remove the entire 25 stacks instantly

That’s why I’ll never, ever invest in a condition-heavy build. Conditions are icing on the cake.

Conditions cannot even be applied to things in instances like burrows and such so it makes it hard for condition builds like a conditionmancer to be effective as he should be. Same with pvp and wvwvw with condition builds, they can be shed so easily and the over time damage can hinder some players from even getting credit for a players death because they have to do so much damage to a target.

Best part about condition builds with crit Traits is that i can spam DB permanently if i want to i also use Dual Pistols for C+D change up for even more stacking and earth weapons Condition Removals have cool downs but your ability to stack quickly and efficiently do not so stop knocking on condition builds until you play one thanks

I have a 80 necro who is a conditionmancer and I enjoy him, I have a 80 engineer who is actully better for conditions then my necro. The necro though can spread conditions to many others quickly but is slower at applying them then a engineer who can apply them quicker and more types at once with bleeds, burns, and vulnerability on crit alone for engineers.

I also have a 80 thief who i made just I could figure out ways to beat the annoying stealth and in that process i got him to 80 because i enjoyed it for some reason. Still hate stealth in this game and how it works against everyone else.

I have a guardian who is a master of virtues and spreading burning. I am now in the process of making a Mesmer. I have tons of in game practice with each of them besides the Mesmer because I just cant figure out whats best yet for how I want to play.

Condition builds have series weakeness since they cant hurt seige weapons, doors, walls, etc as a direct damage build can. They can also only stack up to 25 bleeds which can be cleared off very quickly along with all other conditions.

gamefreak.5673:

I have a 80 necro who is a conditionmancer and I enjoy him, I have a 80 engineer who is actully better for conditions then my necro. The necro though can spread conditions to many others quickly but is slower at applying them then a engineer who can apply them quicker and more types at once with bleeds, burns, and vulnerability on crit alone for engineers.

I also have a 80 thief who i made just I could figure out ways to beat the annoying stealth and in that process i got him to 80 because i enjoyed it for some reason. Still hate stealth in this game and how it works against everyone else.

I have a guardian who is a master of virtues and spreading burning. I am now in the process of making a Mesmer. I have tons of in game practice with each of them besides the Mesmer because I just cant figure out whats best yet for how I want to play.

Condition builds have series weakeness since they cant hurt seige weapons, doors, walls, etc as a direct damage build can. They can also only stack up to 25 bleeds which can be cleared off very quickly along with all other conditions.

Which ironically has nothing to do with the topic…

Definitely BS or some kind of a really weird bug.

Zarania.6235:

Just tried myself (lvl 80 thief), couldnt get up to 25bleeds.

i call bs on this…

Then you’re doing it wrong.

Step 1
Caltrops
Step 2
Take Root
Step 3
C+D
Step 4
Sneak Attack with pistol
Step 5
Use Hidden within the Shadows
Step 6
Sneak attack with pistol

You should have 25 bleeds stacked on a single target (if your Take Root is attacking a whole lot of other stuff you won’t hit 25)

You shouldn’t call b.s. on something because you’re not doing it right…

I was doing it all day today too, consistently hitting 25 bleeds on a single veteran mob. When the Take Root attacked other targets I’d end up getting the stacks to around 18-20 which is where I think you’re messing up.

It’s easy as hell to get 25 stacks of bleed as a thief.

Invest into condition duration and use caltrols + pistol.

Even caltrops + cluster bomb spam works.

Condition damage thief works because of the perma poison, high bleed stacks, and weakness and cripple easily covering your bleeds and poisons.