Guild Wars 2

Traps deal less condition damage then last week itwas OP I must agree I wrecked every single class in pVP and WVW but come on it made it kind of boring. p/p is crap we need the trap

Oh? I am not aware of any changes to my traps.

And p/p is not crap. Works fine.

P/p got worse since last patch any melee is better than that lol

Forsaken.4215:

P/p got worse since last patch any melee is better than that lol

Thats your opinion. it not my experience. Play your way.

babazhook.6805:

Forsaken.4215:

P/p got worse since last patch any melee is better than that lol

Thats your opinion. it not my experience. Play your way.

You havnt seen the traits lol hahaha i know all thief builds

Melee kittens any p/p

Forsaken.4215:

Melee kittens any p/p

Than use it. The presence of p/p does not preclude you using your melee sets. I kind of think 10k unloads from range are rather handy and I see a whole lot of thieves dropping dead at melee to one single swing because they failed a dodge.

Forsaken.4215:

babazhook.6805:

Forsaken.4215:

P/p got worse since last patch any melee is better than that lol

Thats your opinion. it not my experience. Play your way.

You havnt seen the traits lol hahaha i know all thief builds

No. You obviously do not.

babazhook.6805:

Forsaken.4215:

babazhook.6805:

Forsaken.4215:

P/p got worse since last patch any melee is better than that lol

Thats your opinion. it not my experience. Play your way.

You havnt seen the traits lol hahaha i know all thief builds

No. You obviously do not.
Umm my condi thief all over p/p goodbye

Condi thief still better than p/p and you are telling me to p/p are you noob move off my post

Forsaken.4215:

Condi thief still better than p/p and you are telling me to p/p are you noob move off my post

The board is public. If you make a post you do not own the thread. If you can not handle people disagreeing with you than do not post. What you could do is create your own site and just invite people to post who would agree with you or you could go look at yourself in a mirror and debate the reflection> I am sure he would agree with everything you say which is apparently what you are looking for.

have a nice day

babazhook.6805:

Forsaken.4215:

Condi thief still better than p/p and you are telling me to p/p are you noob move off my post

The board is public. If you make a post you do not own the thread. If you can not handle people disareeing with you than do not post. What you could do is create your own site and just invite people to post who would agree with you.

Yeah and you don’t know what you are talking about

Needle trap dealt nearly poison 1800dmg now it is 1100
Bleeds are 10% weaker on trap too.
Venoms where used to intensify trap damage.
Made it perfect for mesmers and guardians.
P/p is meh my guard wrecks them and i hate walking in the park give me the streets

Forsaken.4215:

Needle trap dealt nearly poison 1800dmg now it is 1100
Bleeds are 10% weaker on trap too.
Venoms where used to intensify trap damage.
Made it perfect for mesmers and guardians.
P/p is meh my guard wrecks them and i hate walking in the park give me the streets

I see. So you fought oppnents who allowed the total poison duration to run its course without a cleanse. That is interesting.

All you have to do now to make up for that is add one more stack of poison. it not that hard.

As to your bleed ticks , once more traps add vulnerability so they tick 5 percent higher per trap. Add one more stack of five from a trap (or cnd or bodyshot) and you are ahead of your old bleed ticks.

Now that is not all a trap adds if you trait properly. it also adds 5 stacks of might per trap again this adds to your damage per tick.

What the kitten are you on about it would have dealt 180dmg a sec now the 110 as it is now. Shut up!!!

Forsaken.4215:

What the kitten are you on about it would have dealt 180dmg a sec now the 110 as it is now. Shut up!!!

Please provide the link to the post where bleed and poison damage was lessened. The formula for bleed and poison damage as far as i can see as not changed since patch .

Poison as example is :: New damage over time: 3.5+(0.375*Level)+(.06*Condition Damage) as per patch notes and remains this.

the stack of poison one gets off a trap does as much damage per tick as the stack of poison one gets off a dagger AA. If you are level 80 and get 110 damage per tick off poison than your condition damage is 1275.

Since patch , in order to have received 180 damage per tick from poison you would need condition damage close to 2500.

In order for the poison damage to have been cut nearly in half as you claim then the either the formula has changed from the original June 23 patch notes (which has not occurred as far as I can see) or the number of stacks of poison coming off needle trap was changed. To my recollection it always applied one stack so I want your evidence that such not the case.

Oh and venoms did not intensify trap damage. The amount of damage coming from the trap was not related to venoms unless one traited Venomous strength for more might. Venomous strength remains.

Deadly trapper applies more might then did two seperate venoms triggered. under the old system. You can in fact trait both now.

babazhook.6805:

Forsaken.4215:

What the kitten are you on about it would have dealt 180dmg a sec now the 110 as it is now. Shut up!!!

Please provide the link to the post where bleed and poison damage was lessened. The formula for bleed and poison damage as far as i can see as not changed since patch .

Poison as example is :: New damage over time: 3.5+(0.375*Level)+(.06*Condition Damage) as per patch notes and remains this.

the stack of poison one gets off a trap does as much damage per tick as the stack of poison one gets off a dagger AA. If you are level 80 and get 110 damage per tick off poison than your condition damage is 1275.

Since patch , in order to have received 180 damage per tick from poison you would need condition damage close to 2500.

In order for the poison damage to have been cut nearly in half as you claim then the either the formula has changed from the original June 23 patch notes (which has not occurred as far as I can see) or the number of stacks of poison coming off needle trap was changed. To my recollection it always applied one stack so I want your evidence that such not the case.

Oh and venoms did not intensify trap damage. The amount of damage coming from the trap was not related to venoms unless one traited Venomous strength for more might. Venomous strength remains.

Deadly trapper applies more might then did two seperate venoms triggered. under the old system. You can in fact trait both now.

That is the build I created on patch day mate, dont try push my rage any further https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/Condition-Build-2/first#post5242375

I think you’re just another attention seeker, see I am here to help people and show them whats best while you sit around justifying

that’s crazy mate since there hasn’t been a game build update since june. can’t see how they could have nerfed anything without changing anything. had to take the troll bait mate sorry

If you’re trying to use these runes as a primary source of damage, you’re going to be disappointed.

-Using them as CC/opening stealth without having to c/d is a huge plus. People will chase you into a laid trap. They cannot help it.
-Using Withdraw with this runeset = win.

why does this class even have traps >_<

Cynz.9437:

why does this class even have traps >_<

Thief not assasin/ninja/samurai and alike.

Sagat.3285:

Cynz.9437:

why does this class even have traps >_<

Thief not assasin/ninja/samurai and alike.

no my point is, they are so bad :|
extremely high trade off
extremely high CD for way too low effect
little synergy with weapons/traits~

Cynz.9437:

Sagat.3285:

Cynz.9437:

why does this class even have traps >_<

Thief not assasin/ninja/samurai and alike.

no my point is, they are so bad :|
extremely high trade off
extremely high CD for way too low effect
little synergy with weapons/traits~

I only ever slotted traps due to the runes giving stealth on trap use it should have been a trait. Thief doesn’t build in damage in utilities anyway it was always defense/utility damage came from steal and weapons due to initiative. That’s why signets and deceptions see more gameplay than the rest.

Once the Trapper Runes came out I was sure that I will never use a trap in PvP for once unfortunately it was WvW>PvP.

Forsaken.4215:

t was OP I must agree I wrecked every single class in pVP and WVW but come on it made it kind of boring.

You wrecked every single class in pvp and wvw….WITH NEEDLE TRAPS?!

Needle is the only actual condition trap and you’re telling me everything you were doing depending on the Needle trap?

You must seriously be exaggerating.
I used traps on my Thief and they didn’t outright destroy anyone.
Needle trap is not an iWin button.

Besides, Needle Trap can now add vulnerability (increasing condition damage/basic damage by %5) AND might (increasing condition damage to 150).

Needle trap is actually a lot better than it used to be.

How is it people get moderated for tiny things but this post and nearly everything the OP said in it is still here?

Hey guys i was joking about them being nerfed right, yeah i dont depend on it to win it gets my opponent down to 60% but it will puncture their regens and then once i unload stealth attack i have to dodge a lot

In pvp no i do not use trapper runes i used something else i will not say what, i have tried a few things of course. Trapper runes are just the greatest thing for me in wvw on a thief