The best build for WvW?

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Posted by: Spike.1526

Spike.1526

What is your actual build for WvW?

This is mine actually, a support venom sharing one : http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=Vd;4RwFc0X5FPFd0;9;4T-T-937B;138B;14;06;09_Z-EoHAhoHAhq-kk0-s1Us_u7P-U0Z1d2jZo40sVF-1o;57V-17V-1;9;9;9;9;0V0;3V6s5S

What about you?

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Posted by: Kallist.5917

Kallist.5917

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=Vc;4Rw-_0I5VOVd0;9;4JTJ;024-59A23;5JBHAY;1V19cV19co-FvF6o0gN_scOVTWqXcYi37a23V-705;0PNX8P7W7;9;9;9;9;9;29-6A

mainly sit on the sidelines and use Infiltrators strike with Steal to jump deeper in to the enemy’s lines and take out soft targets such as Ele’s, Ranger’s, Engie’s, Mesmers and Guardians(stealing boons to make each one soft), use the Stealth mostly to remove conditions and to support my team as best I can.
The signet of Rage on the Dagger is because Im running Spike while i get the last of my gifts, and I’m too scared to change anything on it. lol

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Posted by: Spike.1526

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And what do you think about this one, compared to the first one i suggest : http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=Vd;4RwFc0X5FOFd0;9;49TT;03;052A38B;46;09_Z-EoHAhoHAhn-kk0-mXgV_ucW-a0f1kYq3w40s-G-1k;57V-17V-1;9;9;9;9;0V0;4Ek3Q

Maybe Lyssa’s rune instead of Mad king?

Btw, i take a look on your build Kallist. It might be really good as full dps role, but not really useful for supporting a group. For me, in WvW, it’s mostly support build that shall be reached.

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Posted by: Kallist.5917

Kallist.5917

And what do you think about this one, compared to the first one i suggest : http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=Vd;4RwFc0X5FOFd0;9;49TT;03;052A38B;46;09_Z-EoHAhoHAhn-kk0-mXgV_ucW-a0f1kYq3w40s-G-1k;57V-17V-1;9;9;9;9;0V0;4Ek3Q

Maybe Lyssa’s rune instead of Mad king?

Btw, i take a look on your build Kallist. It might be really good as full dps role, but not really useful for supporting a group. For me, in WvW, it’s mostly support build that shall be reached.

Well by support, I really mean he can usually survive a trip in to the enemy to help an allie get back up.

Was looking at your stats, they almost match up with mine. Your hits must be pretty good considering its a condition focused build, and the fact that they cant run or get in range of you, I like that.
Why did you focus so much on getting your crit chance up there? I could be wrong, but you may be able to get your crit damage up to 75% with out a huge hit to your chance.
I may try something like this when I have some more money. I looks pretty fun.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

there is no more best build. they all are horrible if running into a trap. well lemme give this a go.

granted you hit no traps: d/p with backup sb or s/d
if you hit a trap: run s/d and d/d full evade and hope to troll long enough stay alive.

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Posted by: Kallist.5917

Kallist.5917

there is no more best build. they all are horrible if running into a trap. well lemme give this a go.

granted you hit no traps: d/p with backup sb or s/d
if you hit a trap: run s/d and d/d full evade and hope to troll long enough stay alive.

Ive played WvW all day and havent seen a trap yet. Their not that big a deal.

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Posted by: PearlGore.7419

PearlGore.7419

I see supply traps all the time, stealth traps not so much yet. The best build I have found though is to play my Mesmer.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

there is no more best build. they all are horrible if running into a trap. well lemme give this a go.

granted you hit no traps: d/p with backup sb or s/d
if you hit a trap: run s/d and d/d full evade and hope to troll long enough stay alive.

Ive played WvW all day and havent seen a trap yet. Their not that big a deal.

u havent played me. and its still early :P ull find out when people get smart /see others leawrning how to use them. im already stopping medium zergs single handily from taking towers…..yes 1 thief stoping 20-30 from taking a tower. also dropping trap against 1-2 even 3 thieves is an instant win for me. thieves are totally abusing these traps

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Posted by: Spike.1526

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And what do you think about this one, compared to the first one i suggest : http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=Vd;4RwFc0X5FOFd0;9;49TT;03;052A38B;46;09_Z-EoHAhoHAhn-kk0-mXgV_ucW-a0f1kYq3w40s-G-1k;57V-17V-1;9;9;9;9;0V0;4Ek3Q

Maybe Lyssa’s rune instead of Mad king?

Btw, i take a look on your build Kallist. It might be really good as full dps role, but not really useful for supporting a group. For me, in WvW, it’s mostly support build that shall be reached.

Well by support, I really mean he can usually survive a trip in to the enemy to help an allie get back up.

Was looking at your stats, they almost match up with mine. Your hits must be pretty good considering its a condition focused build, and the fact that they cant run or get in range of you, I like that.
Why did you focus so much on getting your crit chance up there? I could be wrong, but you may be able to get your crit damage up to 75% with out a huge hit to your chance.
I may try something like this when I have some more money. I looks pretty fun.

This is my final choice^^ : http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=Vd;4RwFc0X5BPFd0;9;49TT;03;052A38B;46;09_Z-EoHAhoHAhc-kk0-mXgV_ucW-a0f1kYq3w40s-G-1k;6W-17V-1;9;9;9;9;0V0;4Ek3f

And for your question about Critical rate, i’ve played with the build i’ve posted first as condition damage dps for weeks, and i was quite disappointed about it. The damages didn’t seems really good, and i wanna try something else without removing the sharing venoms.

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Posted by: Linguistically Inept.6583

Linguistically Inept.6583

my thief is really low level; but just felt like mentioning that i find p/d thieves the hardest to deal with in wvw

Desolation: 80 ranger [Nightwither], 80 necro [Dusk Grimsoul]
80 warr [Blaze Steelsoul], 80 ele [Blaze Nightstrike], 80 mesmer [Grim Shatterwhirl]
80 guard [Dusk Grimlight], 80 engi [Flintgear]

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Posted by: stinkypants.8419

stinkypants.8419

15/10/30/15/0

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=Ve;4Vwkb0I5FOVd0;9;4E9TE-2;05;034A5;36;09_Z-EoHAhoHAhc-kk0-o0SV_ucW-a0f1kYq3w40s-G-1k;6W-17V-1;9;9;9;9;0V0;4Ek3O

i’ll swap blinding powder for signet of shadows for movement

typically run daggerstorm as i like to run vanguard in a zerg, tho will swap to basilisk venom for when i roam solo. rarely run thieves guild these days as find the cooldown too long

Knight’s armor and emerald orbs

berserker/berserker weapons and jewelery

but this is typically how i roll when there are large field battles going

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

@STICKYPANTS drop sig of shadows for blinding powder. u already have 50% movement in stealth. its a waste of a utility if u get jumped.

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Posted by: stinkypants.8419

stinkypants.8419

/le sigh… i know i know…

it’s hard to give up. and i do try to swap it out when i’m not rolling from point to point.

definitely never use SoS when roaming solo.

edit – also thinking about swapping mug for potent poison… #decisionsdecisions

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

i run 0 30 20 20 0 and gives me swiftness on roll and refill endurance on roll….really helps get around…..but blinding powerder is 10x better in a fight and hard to change last moment when ur not ready :P i dont run mug….has no place in any build with a 45 sec cooldown. forget that horrible skill. its ONLY a heal skill now. 800-1k dmg is pffft.

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Posted by: Spike.1526

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I actually change my build for a scouting/DPS one.

http://intothemists.com/calc/?build=Vd;4Rw-_0N5JOVd0;9;5TEO;256A3;018;2hNl0-Z-EoHAhoHAhc-Fg7A16-V_ucW-a0f1kYq3w42sVA-1k;6081FX-Z;9;9;9;9;0V0;4Ek3c

Really enjoy it^^

The acrobatics traits are really awesome.

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