Guild Wars 2

i just want to point out a very blatant problem with the thief’s design that is the cause of everyone Bull whining and thieves hold onto that which all other players despise injustly.

here is our reality: We ARE to burst best-
We ARE to have the most mobility
We ALWAYS will be the class that stealth is most important to and we gain the most from it. that will NEVER change as long as it exists.

our best ways to keep ourselves alive: Kill you before you kill me by any means including MASSIVE spam.
Use stealth to keep ourselves safer and get our big hits off
or use evades which are ,as everybody knows, limited even for thief’s. not only that but our non utility evades basically go hand in hand with spam.

The kicker is: we have no access to any defensive boons except regen stability and vigor. I am clearly exempting the stolen goods we get from steal.
now to tackle how we get said boons:
regen- acquired mainly through our stealth heal and a trait focused on giving it by stealth. as well as a very unreliable 10 seconds on 45 CD when hit at 75%.
Vigor- traits that either is upon heal or upon steal that is it.
stability- dagger storm that is all we would have to waste an elite just for stability.

hmmmm does seem to be very many of those…. so what else do we have for defense.
well we really cant just trait to have both of those at our disposal that would be problematic for other areas of our professions like damage and most importantly Initiative control( which i bet you non thieves dont know runs out really fast cause of our burst.oh and our best skills burn the most really fast)

now if we HAVE to choose between the two for survival factor we would have to look at which provides the best defense.

obviously GC has some good benefits with it but not everyone wants to be that cheap.

evades are not as trusty. at worst using all evades in a rather quick succession is only 5 and that is including the heal but not including the weapon skills as they are just spam-able evades that would just be an annoyance to both players.

Now stealth: stealth is special. Stealth gives us ALL our defensive benefits we really need. it removes conditions(doesnt matter which unlike the evades that take care of a selction) helps our initiative control. and can provide some healing that we would need.
players need to understand to us thieves stealth is our Retaliation, protection,vigor, aegis, and regeneration. it provides what we need to SURVIVE.

You see players as you cheer for our stealth nerfs and we complain you must understand one thing. each time Anet does that our defense takes a major hit.
I dont give a fly kitten about our offense if they are coming D/X offensively you should be sure to expect them close even in stealth.
but im not here to talk of offense.
I will not say that stealth is in any way balanced cuz ITS NOT. even for us you can not call it balanced if it is so good compared to evades that doesnt promote diversity.
Anet kitten up hard. dont say our evades are viable. THEY ARENT. as long as stealth provides our needs so well it will never be overruled.
The only thing left to do Anet is to rework the whole kitten class now. You arent gonna make it better by nerfing stealth in any way. your just gonna make people quit faster and faster.

this has been a service announcement from a very kitten off player. i am not ranting as a thief player but as a player on the whole.I am posting this here cuz it seems people enjoy coming to the thief forum just to hate on us more.
In reality ALL of us players complain about the quirks of our classes. I just dont know why some many other come here to insult this class while most others dont have this happening.

It’s mostly true. We can evade everywhere with the right builds, but at the end of the day, going stealth is the best way for us to mitigate massive punishment, so we are getting hit hard. Yes the affects mesmers too, but imo not nearly as much. Ive fought plenty of mesmers who didnt even use stealth. EDIT: though id prefer it, for the love of God stop turning me into a moa, it doesnt work