Guild Wars 2

This vid was taken back before I had my better dps build but it was still more than enough to make short work of this risen army.

I have one comment about this video. If you play a condition damage thief you can literally drop refuge, caltrops, and poison and watch the mobs melt from stealth without ever going down. I have done that part of the Arah chain on a number of classes and that the easier method.

I have one comment about this video.
“cute ponies you have there” =)

I don’t use condition thief, notice the 55s. It was just to show how unkillable an aoe thief can be

Add some healing power to that, and you would never had dropped.

randomfightfan.4091:

I don’t use condition thief, notice the 55s. It was just to show how unkillable an aoe thief can be

You literally went down three times. the only time you did decent aoe dps was when you dagger stormed. You literally do most of your DPS in the form of condition damage and spend 14 seconds down. Do I really need to pick this apart fully?

Now if you listen to what I say you might learn something. If you were condition damage speced with the same utilities you could have simply did refuge over the pack dropped caltrops switch to bow dropped poison field and used caltrops on dodge as needed. Once you came out of stealth you use the same tactics you did. It would have been much faster less sloppy and you would have never gone down.

Lets add in the fact you had commanders up the vet wasn’t there and you reset your pulls.

If your going to show AoE DPS then show it. I think there is this perception that because I might criticize thief in PvE I haven’t played it for 6 months. If you are really going to do aoe dps then do it right. What your really looking at a is DB spam add in if you an asura Radition field and Pain Inverter and you never have to switch to bow.

I am not saying aoe dps can’t be done or anything like that. What I am saying is that if your’e really going to do it there is proper way.

Lol guy, just lol.

1. If I wanted to perma invis and just condition down that mob, I could. Fact is that’s boring.

2. The caltrops was just to get some more ticks out from signet.

3. Guess you weren’t noticing the 4k+ auto attacks. If you can’t do math, the 4k comes from each hit doing around 1400, hitting 3 targets.

4. The point of the vid was not to show BOOM BIG NUMBERS!!!!! if it was I’d have made a different vid with my new build that would blow those numbers out of the water.

5. Commander up is a problem for you? Pretty sure the only one here with a problem is you. Sorry that I came out of wvw for a bit to do some pve and didn’t go out of my way to turn off a tag that wasn’t hurting ANYBODY. You jelly that I have commander and you don’t?

6. Clusterbomb, sbow auto, chocking gas, clusterbomb, throw gunk, caltrops, all aoe. I even used an infil arrow to group blind. The point of the video was to show off all aspects of thief aoe except for sword auto (since it doesn’t work well in situations that are 1v15.

7. Sorry I went down, you mad that I kept getting back up by myself? Down =/= dead as you can see from that vid.

8. Not my fault the adds despawned. Notice how they are all grouped up in 1 area and how I never left the area. They did that by themselves. I even re-agroed them while I was at about 15% hp and they were all 100% and I still won.

Why you so mad?

Oh and 9. The quality is junk and I don’t know why. Something must have gone wrong in the converting process. Did not turn out the way it was supposed to.

randomfightfan.4091:

Lol guy, just lol.

Why you so mad?

Not mad at all. Look take the advice or leave it your play was sloppy end of story. If you want to show how to do it then do it properly other wise your wasting other peoples time. You put something up for critique and I critiqued. Your play was kitten excuse my french for PvE. That sums it up.

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One note “1. If I wanted to perma invis and just condition down that mob, I could. Fact is that’s boring.” Excuse my language from now. Only an kitten would say this. The most efficient way to deal with the pack requires very little effort just simple and smart play. You mean to tell me to prove a point about how good thief aoe is you use the most inefficient method that see you get downed 3 times while any smart player could have done more aoe damage and not even have gone down one with out splitting the pack. By all means show your crappy video but don’t pass it off as good or right or anything that represent thief’s potential.

Challenge accepted???

Challenge horribly failed.

(btw that’s anger)

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So mad, so funny. Completely missed the point of the vid but thanks for making my day. Don’t usually get this kind of comedy.

so you record how you use dagger storm 7 seconds every 90 seconds, to take an group of mobs ? How efficient will be this on plinx/penitent / shelter / melandru /grenth events.
I don’t say thieves aoe sucks, however you cannot compare your farm with an warrior or elementalist /gs guardian

Rayya.2591:

so you record how you use dagger storm 7 seconds every 90 seconds, to take an group of mobs ? How efficient will be this on plinx/penitent / shelter / melandru /grenth events.
I don’t say thieves aoe sucks, however you cannot compare your farm with an warrior or elementalist /gs guardian

As stated before, this was just to present all the options available for a sbow thief. Clusterbomb spam always generates me massive loot drops whenever I do anything that resembles farming. If I need to get to a group of mobs fast before they die, I shadowstep or steal to the group, drop 2-3 clusters near instantly, and tag everything doing so. If this was a vid to show off aoe damage I wouldn’t have done a 1v15, it would have been a 15v15 where you see 2 hits land with 5k minimum clusters (different build than this one) with a sword in the off hand for more quick jumps and cleaving attacks.

Add some healing power to that, and you would never had dropped.

Healing power is generally a wasted stat. I’d rather crit 20% more often than get 5 more healing per tick of malice. Maybe on a guard or ele but healing power is near useless on thief.

randomfightfan.4091:

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So mad, so funny. Completely missed the point of the vid but thanks for making my day. Don’t usually get this kind of comedy.

If the point of your vid was to show how it should not be done then I think I got the point completely. We can go back and forth like this it seems your a fan of fighting. You can’t even counter what I say because you know I am right, and that’s the best type of comedy there is to me. Go on dazzle me with your wit.

Well with farming those certain areas where all you got to do is tag mob, group’s dps will be tooo high to make anyone person’s dps matter. What matters is to tag as many mobs as possible, and thief do not fall short on that.

With respects to heal, it true the healing doesn’t scale well with most abilities, Tho imo, passives on SoM is one of those rare gem that does scale nicely with it,
Losing 20% crit for healing gets you 25 more health per proc, which is really nice if you hit alot, which an aoe thief does do.

TheGuy.3568:

If the point of your vid was to show how it should not be done then I think I got the point completely. We can go back and forth like this it seems your a fan of fighting. You can’t even counter what I say because you know I am right, and that’s the best type of comedy there is to me. Go on dazzle me with your wit.

I already let you know exactly what the point of my vid was, not my fault you can’t accept that you’re getting super mad about nothing. If you want to pick it apart so much and try say how good you are then go ahead and make your own videos. Sad thing is you’d probably fail even if you tried to cheese your way through a fight like that with the whole 30 points into SA to perma invis through that fight, using only caltrops, chocking gas, and maybe whatever asura abilities you want. Thing is you haven’t done that to prove how effective slowly bleeding out your targets. Bet you’d mess up one of the invis’ before killing anything, revealing yourself just long enough to get jumped by the mobs and dropped. Want to complain about my play? Go ahead. Before you keep making yourself sound like a fool try to do something that proves you’re actually good instead of just sounding like an internet troll whose only skill is complaining.

Now please try coming up with some original comeback instead of just repeating what I said. About everything you’ve said so far, I am not impressed, just amused.

BobbyT.7192:

Well with farming those certain areas where all you got to do is tag mob, group’s dps will be tooo high to make anyone person’s dps matter. What matters is to tag as many mobs as possible, and thief do not fall short on that.

With respects to heal, it true the healing doesn’t scale well with most abilities, Tho imo, passives on SoM is one of those rare gem that does scale nicely with it,
Losing 20% crit for healing gets you 25 more health per proc, which is really nice if you hit alot, which an aoe thief does do.

Didn’t know it was 25 points per proc. Sounds about right but I still feel like it’s wasted stats. I prefer being able to kill things over out tanking something. Just a more fun playstyle imo. If you like playing like that, there’s nothing wrong with that, it’s just not my style.

Challenge failed.

randomfightfan.4091:

TheGuy.3568:

If the point of your vid was to show how it should not be done then I think I got the point completely. We can go back and forth like this it seems your a fan of fighting. You can’t even counter what I say because you know I am right, and that’s the best type of comedy there is to me. Go on dazzle me with your wit.

I already let you know exactly what the point of my vid was, not my fault you can’t accept that you’re getting super mad about nothing. If you want to pick it apart so much and try say how good you are then go ahead and make your own videos. Sad thing is you’d probably fail even if you tried to cheese your way through a fight like that with the whole 30 points into SA to perma invis through that fight, using only caltrops, chocking gas, and maybe whatever asura abilities you want. Thing is you haven’t done that to prove how effective slowly bleeding out your targets. Bet you’d mess up one of the invis’ before killing anything, revealing yourself just long enough to get jumped by the mobs and dropped. Want to complain about my play? Go ahead. Before you keep making yourself sound like a fool try to do something that proves you’re actually good instead of just sounding like an internet troll whose only skill is complaining.

Now please try coming up with some original comeback instead of just repeating what I said. About everything you’ve said so far, I am not impressed, just amused.

Let me simplify this for you since you think you argument is strong(you kids and your “You got mad so I win” logic failure).

You put up a crappy video of crappy game play. You brag about it. I tell you sed crappy video is full of crappy game play. You accuse me of being mad and make a list of why you played like kitten. I respond you still played like kitten. Wall of text telling me I couldn’t do better and to prove.

Here the part where I remind you that you put up this video of your own free will. And that no one asked for it. You opened yourself for critique. It has been given.

Honestly haven’t you realized your the one trying to impress me? Look at what you have said so far backing up your play. Your trying to convince me what you did was good. You sad little thing haven’t you realized that yet? I have nothing to defend but you do. Not my video son its yours. If you didn’t want criticism why upload your video hmm?

EDIT: Disregard. Dumb question.

I have never really tried SB too much. I think I might try it again.

TheGuy.3568:

randomfightfan.4091:

TheGuy.3568:

If the point of your vid was to show how it should not be done then I think I got the point completely. We can go back and forth like this it seems your a fan of fighting. You can’t even counter what I say because you know I am right, and that’s the best type of comedy there is to me. Go on dazzle me with your wit.

I already let you know exactly what the point of my vid was, not my fault you can’t accept that you’re getting super mad about nothing. If you want to pick it apart so much and try say how good you are then go ahead and make your own videos. Sad thing is you’d probably fail even if you tried to cheese your way through a fight like that with the whole 30 points into SA to perma invis through that fight, using only caltrops, chocking gas, and maybe whatever asura abilities you want. Thing is you haven’t done that to prove how effective slowly bleeding out your targets. Bet you’d mess up one of the invis’ before killing anything, revealing yourself just long enough to get jumped by the mobs and dropped. Want to complain about my play? Go ahead. Before you keep making yourself sound like a fool try to do something that proves you’re actually good instead of just sounding like an internet troll whose only skill is complaining.

Now please try coming up with some original comeback instead of just repeating what I said. About everything you’ve said so far, I am not impressed, just amused.

Let me simplify this for you since you think you argument is strong(you kids and your “You got mad so I win” logic failure).

You put up a crappy video of crappy game play. You brag about it. I tell you sed crappy video is full of crappy game play. You accuse me of being mad and make a list of why you played like kitten. I respond you still played like kitten. Wall of text telling me I couldn’t do better and to prove.

Here the part where I remind you that you put up this video of your own free will. And that no one asked for it. You opened yourself for critique. It has been given.

Honestly haven’t you realized your the one trying to impress me? Look at what you have said so far backing up your play. Your trying to convince me what you did was good. You sad little thing haven’t you realized that yet? I have nothing to defend but you do. Not my video son its yours. If you didn’t want criticism why upload your video hmm?

you don’t seem to be angry enough, need more bolded words

dude make a new video. they don’t get it.

we thieves are the nicest ppl evar

bladie.5084:

we thieves are the nicest ppl evar

I’m a lovable ball of joy,

I love balls of joy!

Now that’s got to be some sort of innuendo.

Lastly @ guy, when you lose your cool, it will always take away any validity of your argument. Not to mention I killed 15+ risen at once with a class that’s supposed to have kitten aoe. If the class really didn’t have any good aoe then, no matter how well/terrible it was played, they shouldn’t have been able to kill that many enemies at once. Please simmer down on the hate, it’s not good for anybody, especially not for yourself. It is unhealthy that you are getting so mad at me saying “I don’t use condition thief, notice the 55s. It was just to show how unkillable an aoe thief can be”. I feel very sorry for you. I wish that you find joy in the things you do in life.

Is this serious? or is it a troll post?
How can you say something is “unkillable” if you go down 3 times in about 5secs?

To clear trash like this there are better ways to do it as a thief. S/P for instance.

When people say “thief sucks at pve” its not clearing trash that they meant.

Try the same group of mobs with a warrior, a guardian or a necro… it goes faster and smoother.

What this video proves is that thief is too squishy if he wants to do any dmg… going down 3 times for trash mobs?

lLobo.7960:

Is this serious? or is it a troll post?
How can you say something is “unkillable” if you go down 3 times in about 5secs?

To clear trash like this there are better ways to do it as a thief. S/P for instance.

When people say “thief sucks at pve” its not clearing trash that they meant.

Try the same group of mobs with a warrior, a guardian or a necro… it goes faster and smoother.

What this video proves is that thief is too squishy if he wants to do any dmg… going down 3 times for trash mobs?

I bet the warrior, guard, or necro would all die to that size of a group of mobs. And why do people hate on the downed so much? Seriously? Rallied no problem with each. 1 was immediately countered with a shadow refuge and had the entire mob sitting in the caltrops, the other 2 instantly rallied with 1 bouncing dagger.

Actually necro could probably do it easy if he used all of his wells then went into plague when they expired. Warrior would kill a few with 100 blades and endure, after that they wouldn’t have the dodges to survive all the aoes (not to mention the burning associated with every aoe). The guard, if it was the cheesing retaliation/burning on block guard, it might have a chance but it would most likely kill the stuff very slowly.

I suggest you read many of the posts too. I have stated many times that I was showing off all the OPTIONS thief has for aoe, not the damage or anything like that. The fact that it was on a large group of mobs was just b/c it was fun to do. When you’ve played the game for a long time, very little remains fun so you have to find challenges. If all you care about is big numbers, there are a lot better vids out there to showcase that. Most involve a player being sheltered by a group but still being able to dish out steady dps.

I watched the video, and frankly I just wasn’t amused. I’ve taken that group down much more effectively than that on my own thief, let alone on other classes. You couldn’t even see the damage because half the time was spent running away while another portion was also being downed over and over again.

BobbyT.7192:

you don’t seem to be angry enough, need more bolded words

I Thought I explained to you how bold works but in case you missed it I will ink it again. Please don’t troll me as its is a little disgusting. How bold is used in written text. Please in the future remember this before applying your own rules to common language tools. Using bold for is usually considered a courtesy when dealing with this much text.

randomfightfan.4091:

I love balls of joy!

Now that’s got to be some sort of innuendo.

Lastly @ guy, when you lose your cool, it will always take away any validity of your argument. Not to mention I killed 15+ risen at once with a class that’s supposed to have kitten aoe. If the class really didn’t have any good aoe then, no matter how well/terrible it was played, they shouldn’t have been able to kill that many enemies at once. Please simmer down on the hate, it’s not good for anybody, especially not for yourself. It is unhealthy that you are getting so mad at me saying “I don’t use condition thief, notice the 55s. It was just to show how unkillable an aoe thief can be”. I feel very sorry for you. I wish that you find joy in the things you do in life.

First off you need to learn about what causes a fallacy in a logical argument. I will link you more information as getting angry doesn’t cause a logic failure. Many times in an argument the hope is to get your opponent angry and have them lose focus of their points. Many people in your generation have equated this to, “If the other person gets angry no matter what they say they are wrong.” This is a fallacy.

For example Malcolm X would often give speeches from anger. In fiction you can look to the movies, “A Few Good Men”, “Network”, “Mr. Smith goes To Washington”, etc. Getting angry doesn’t make a point any less valid. See a long time ago when I as in high school I was on the debate team. Being passionate or angry wont lesson your points as long as you use logic in your argument. As long as you point out how illogical your opponents argument is there is very little they can do except point out that anger has clouded your logic. You have failed to do that. Because, at the end of the day the advice I gave you was right and you admitted it yourself.

Also much of what you infer as anger is just part of the way I speak and has no emotional context. I talk down to people and that sometimes offends. However, I always talk down to those I do not see as an equal (in terms of this argument). What you infer as my anger is only in your mind. So, I would suggest you stop those assumptions. I have stated before that I am not angry in the slightest bit, and tried to offer you parity by showing you how I speak when truly angry. It seems you didn’t understand, and that is lamentable.

I hope that in the future if you choose to argue with someone who is clearly right, that you do what a practical adult would do. You take the criticism and learn from it. Remember my first post only pointed out a better way to do this. If you were smart you would have take the advice and moved on but alas that selfish pride you have is keeping you from doing that.

I hope that in the future if you choose to do something like this again that you take more time to plan out what you intend to show. If you truly want to show thief AoE S/P, S/D, DD Blossom, SB, and caltrops need be featured equally. Another suggestion is that you choose better content that isn’t so demanding. A number of event mentioned before including Shelt/Pent, Plinx, The Melandru Chain, etc could have done a better job of showing thief aoe without downed stated and frantic play.

While I do wish you the best in whatever you do in life as long as it doesn’t seek to hurt others (as I would do for any human being). I would honestly suggest that if you open yourself up for criticism that instead of feeling the need to constantly defend, that you learn from the critique and improve.

randomfightfan.4091:

lLobo.7960:

Is this serious? or is it a troll post?
How can you say something is “unkillable” if you go down 3 times in about 5secs?

To clear trash like this there are better ways to do it as a thief. S/P for instance.

When people say “thief sucks at pve” its not clearing trash that they meant.

Try the same group of mobs with a warrior, a guardian or a necro… it goes faster and smoother.

What this video proves is that thief is too squishy if he wants to do any dmg… going down 3 times for trash mobs?

I bet the warrior, guard, or necro would all die to that size of a group of mobs. And why do people hate on the downed so much? Seriously? Rallied no problem with each. 1 was immediately countered with a shadow refuge and had the entire mob sitting in the caltrops, the other 2 instantly rallied with 1 bouncing dagger.

Actually necro could probably do it easy if he used all of his wells then went into plague when they expired. Warrior would kill a few with 100 blades and endure, after that they wouldn’t have the dodges to survive all the aoes (not to mention the burning associated with every aoe). The guard, if it was the cheesing retaliation/burning on block guard, it might have a chance but it would most likely kill the stuff very slowly.

I suggest you read many of the posts too. I have stated many times that I was showing off all the OPTIONS thief has for aoe, not the damage or anything like that. The fact that it was on a large group of mobs was just b/c it was fun to do. When you’ve played the game for a long time, very little remains fun so you have to find challenges. If all you care about is big numbers, there are a lot better vids out there to showcase that. Most involve a player being sheltered by a group but still being able to dish out steady dps.

you have a point on necro and war but out of the 3 guardians are much more likely to be able to solo huge amounts of trash, myself, soloed about 20-30 dredge on fotm 38 with ease

Clumsy.6257:

you have a point on necro and war but out of the 3 guardians are much more likely to be able to solo huge amounts of trash, myself, soloed about 20-30 dredge on fotm 38 with ease

Guards are good vs the dredge. You’d never get hit as you could perma wall all of their attacks. You wouldn’t be able to wall any of the attacks from the risen (could shelter/renewed through the burst though) so I’d be surprised if a guard would be able to kill them with anything other than a pure tank set-up.

randomfightfan.4091:

Clumsy.6257:

you have a point on necro and war but out of the 3 guardians are much more likely to be able to solo huge amounts of trash, myself, soloed about 20-30 dredge on fotm 38 with ease

Guards are good vs the dredge. You’d never get hit as you could perma wall all of their attacks. You wouldn’t be able to wall any of the attacks from the risen (could shelter/renewed through the burst though) so I’d be surprised if a guard would be able to kill them with anything other than a pure tank set-up.

line/ring of warding hammer/staff in full zerker would faceroll only 15 trash mobs

Mr. TheGuy, my trolling attitude towards you is in responds to the feeling that any conversation with you is like walking into a brick walk. You easily dismiss any argument as wrong, yet only provide a simple little to support your claims other then saying “doing it this way is better”.
Now, i have little to support my own claims, but what Mr Randomfanfight has shown us is a video him aoe’ing that group solo. It showcases the aoe potential of the class, while it not perfect, he does succeed. Which is more than what people have shown, which at this point of time is 0.

No while your conversation may not convey emotions, IMHO the way i’m reading it, does tell me your angry. So I am sorry you disagree, but that’s the way i’m reading it and i’m know i’m not the only one. If you want to make it easier for people to read, typing less would be a start, your posts are too long winded to begin with.

I’m not that impressed tbh you can switch between P/D or D/D and SB with caltrops and daggerstorm to stay alive without being downed that many times as a condition thief against mobs.

Edit: Oh looks like it was already pointed out :p

BobbyT.7192:

Mr. TheGuy, my trolling attitude towards you is in responds to the feeling that any conversation with you is like walking into a brick walk. You easily dismiss any argument as wrong, yet only provide a simple little to support your claims other then saying “doing it this way is better”.

That brick wall you run into is called a “fact”. Your opinions vs my fact your opinions will repeatedly fail. I do not dismiss all arguments just the ones that are wrong. You do not have to agree with me on everything I say but is you exaggerate or boldly lie I will call you out on it.

BobbyT.7192:

Now, i have little to support my own claims, but what Mr Randomfanfight has shown us is a video him aoe’ing that group solo. It showcases the aoe potential of the class, while it not perfect, he does succeed. Which is more than what people have shown, which at this point of time is 0.

I merely pointed out that there is a better and easier way to do it(as others have also).
Reread what I wrote originally and tell me where there is room to disagree,“I have one comment about this video. If you play a condition damage thief you can literally drop refuge, caltrops, and poison and watch the mobs melt from stealth without ever going down. I have done that part of the Arah chain on a number of classes and that the easier method.” I also said," If you truly want to show thief AoE S/P, S/D, DD Blossom, SB, and caltrops need be featured equally." Where can you disagree?

BobbyT.7192:

No while your conversation may not convey emotions, IMHO the way i’m reading it, does tell me your angry. So I am sorry you disagree, but that’s the way i’m reading it and i’m know i’m not the only one.

The reason you have issue with the way I “speak” is because I am usually right. You infer anger because I talk down to you (I explained this in an earlier post). I know it may be frustrating for you. the reasons I never said anything about your emotional state are that I don’t care, it wont make your post any more valid or invalid, and I couldn’t possibly know without being trained in psychology etc. I will tell you now your assumptions are off. You should listen to the adage, “To assume makes and kitten out of you and me.”

BobbyT.7192:

If you want to make it easier for people to read, typing less would be a start, your posts are too long winded to begin with.

When you have a lot of text and you want to ease your reader of the burden of reading it all you might use a tool to emphasize what is most important in the text. I personally am fully aware I tend to wall text. I bold the important parts so other readers don’t have to read the whole thing, Your response to my kindness is this.

BobbyT.7192:

you don’t seem to be angry enough, need more bolded words

At the end of the day you admitted to being a troll. And I am right about everything I said here.

What I take away from this post is because you lack the capability to argue with me on the facts you resort to trolling. Now if you look at other post what I said in my first post has been echoed over and over again. For the record I would rather be interpreted as angry than proven wrong. Thus I am fine with the result since I rather be right.

I personally think we are done here wouldn’t you agree?

TheGuy.3568:

For the record I would rather be interpreted as angry than proven wrong. Thus I am fine with the result since I rather be right.

I personally think we are done here wouldn’t you agree?

Arrogant much? Why should you be afraid of showing yourself to be wrong? Would you not prefer to learn something, at the end of the day? If you’re right, then you don’t have anything to worry about, and, in that situation, because you cannot by definition be proven wrong, then you should worry more about being interpreted as being angry than being proven wrong. If you’re wrong, then you should take joy in the opportunity to learn something new, and be afraid of coming across as being angry in fear of the idea that it will repel people from wanting to teach you anything new, or cooperate with you in the future.

Anyhow, @ the people who are complaining about how RFF gets downed 3 times: why should it matter if you get downed three times if you can guarantee that every time you will be able to rally easily? If it was PvP, I might understand, because enemies don’t die so easily and have much more complicated tactics, but here it seems a bit ridiculous to assume that going down must be a bad thing, when every time he goes down RFF guarantees that he’ll be able to get back up again.

@guy, please calm down friend. We mean you no ill will. The way you are posting right now only proves that you are angry atm.

When you have a lot of text and you want to ease your reader of the burden of reading it all you might use a tool to emphasize what is most important in the text. I personally am fully aware I tend to wall text. I bold the important parts so other readers don’t have to read the whole thing, Your response to my kindness is this.

You need to understand that if you’re trying to just bold the important parts, then don’t bold 95% if your post. It’s counter productive and only makes people dismiss your posts due to their angry nature.

An example

I merely pointed out that there is a better and easier way to do it(as others have also).

vs.

I merely pointed out that there is a better and easier way to do it(as others have also).

One is you making a point, the other is you making yourself to look like a jerk.

Arganthium.5638:

TheGuy.3568:

For the record I would rather be interpreted as angry than proven wrong. Thus I am fine with the result since I rather be right.

I personally think we are done here wouldn’t you agree?

Arrogant much? Why should you be afraid of showing yourself to be wrong? …truncated…If you’re wrong, then you should take joy in the opportunity to learn something new, and be afraid of coming across as being angry in fear of the idea that it will repel people from wanting to teach you anything new, or cooperate with you in the future.

Anyhow, @ the people who are complaining about how RFF gets downed 3 times: why should it matter if you get downed three times ….truncated… every time he goes down RFF guarantees that he’ll be able to get back up again.

And another one pops up. If I were wrong I would simply be wrong. I would defer to the person who was right and apologize for causing argument. Like I do in real life.
RFF posted the vid not me. Personal attacks are childish and stupid. If you have something you need to say beside “you sound arrogant” then I will listen. As of this moment your’e just another person whining about the tone of my speech. I think its about time you all get over it. Argue the facts or give it a rest. This incessant whining doesn’t change the facts and that’s all I truly care about. There is nothing for me to learn here. The play was sloppy the method bad, I learn on these forums all the time. It just so happens the video is full of things you should not do. How is that my fault?

Your post makes no sense what so ever. You offer advice that has nothing to do with what has been said here (did you even read the previous post). It is just you spewing some pseudo life philosophy. Take your own advice what I said earlier is literally one of the best ways to handle those mobs. You should have learned from me and other posters who described the right method. However, your own arrogance has blinded you. You hypocrite.

Simply put it can be done without getting downed with very little risk. A smart player would employ the method with the least risk that does the most amount of AoE dps if the goal is to simply kill the mobs quickly and highlight aoe.

randomfightfan.4091:

@guy, please calm down friend. We mean you no ill will. The way you are posting right now only proves that you are angry atm.

When you have a lot of text and you want to ease your reader of the burden of reading it all you might use a tool to emphasize what is most important in the text. I personally am fully aware I tend to wall text. I bold the important parts so other readers don’t have to read the whole thing, Your response to my kindness is this.

You need to understand that if you’re trying to just bold the important parts, then don’t bold 95% if your post. It’s counter productive and only makes people dismiss your posts due to their angry nature.

An example

I merely pointed out that there is a better and easier way to do it(as others have also).

vs.

I merely pointed out that there is a better and easier way to do it(as others have also).

One is you making a point, the other is you making yourself to look like a jerk.

First off There were 2,237 individual characters in my last post. Of those 996 were bolded approximately 44.5%. You read my post so it seems you didn’t dismiss it at all so what was your point again?

If you have an issue with bold face then I do not know how to help you. I use it as specified. Also I am reporting your post for being off topic as if has nothing to do with the your own OP and serves as a personal attack on me for using bold font. I never thought I would see the day someone got upset not by the content of my speech but the font. It’s rather funny. The fact you derailed your own thread is also rather funny imho.

“If you’re wrong, then you should take joy in the opportunity to learn something new,” perhaps you should take the advice of one of your supporters and stop being a troll.

Let me tell you again. Your play was sloppy and there are better ways to handle those mobs. If you are going to highlight thief’s AoE capability then do so properly.

Right now to me due to content of your post you seem to someone who trouble reading, learning, and accepting fault. I won’t call you stupid or dumb but I fear that they might be accurate descriptions for you. Instead of worrying about bold and my emotional state (once again I am very calm atm) how about you up your game play and stop being a true troll who derails his own thread.

I really do think we are done here. Would you not agree? Or would you rather keep trolling your own thread?

Edit:
I said my bit. My first post is right. Your game play is bad. I have yet to be disproved. End of story. Good day and good luck. I won’t feed the trolls any longer.

TheGuy.3568:

As of this moment your just another person whining about the tone of my speech. I think its about time you all get over it. Argue the facts or give it a rest.

Learn the different between your and you’re before trying to argue.

Thanks

randomfightfan.4091:

lLobo.7960:

Is this serious? or is it a troll post?
How can you say something is “unkillable” if you go down 3 times in about 5secs?

To clear trash like this there are better ways to do it as a thief. S/P for instance.

When people say “thief sucks at pve” its not clearing trash that they meant.

Try the same group of mobs with a warrior, a guardian or a necro… it goes faster and smoother.

What this video proves is that thief is too squishy if he wants to do any dmg… going down 3 times for trash mobs?

I bet the warrior, guard, or necro would all die to that size of a group of mobs. And why do people hate on the downed so much? Seriously? Rallied no problem with each. 1 was immediately countered with a shadow refuge and had the entire mob sitting in the caltrops, the other 2 instantly rallied with 1 bouncing dagger.

Actually necro could probably do it easy if he used all of his wells then went into plague when they expired. Warrior would kill a few with 100 blades and endure, after that they wouldn’t have the dodges to survive all the aoes (not to mention the burning associated with every aoe). The guard, if it was the cheesing retaliation/burning on block guard, it might have a chance but it would most likely kill the stuff very slowly.

I suggest you read many of the posts too. I have stated many times that I was showing off all the OPTIONS thief has for aoe, not the damage or anything like that. The fact that it was on a large group of mobs was just b/c it was fun to do. When you’ve played the game for a long time, very little remains fun so you have to find challenges. If all you care about is big numbers, there are a lot better vids out there to showcase that. Most involve a player being sheltered by a group but still being able to dish out steady dps.

I’m not quite understanding your reason for uploading this video. If you just wanted to show us the AoE options available to thieves, it would have been more natural to just post a few links to gw2wiki. So I’m forced to conclude that you want us to see how you play, and frankly, it sucks. TheGuy kind of came on too harshly, but he’s right in his criticisms and there’s no need to derail your own thread with your defensive responses.

For guardians, a full cleric shout build can solo those mobs easily. Won’t be very fast, sure, but it would be much safer. Good warriors – and thieves, for that matter – can finish the job fairly quickly with high damage and judicious use of dodge (which your video fails to show).

Not sure about necros. The last time I touched one was in tPvP weeks ago, but I think power necro can do the job fairly well.

imerp.7968:

TheGuy.3568:

As of this moment your just another person whining about the tone of my speech. I think its about time you all get over it. Argue the facts or give it a rest.

Learn the different between your and you’re before trying to argue.

Thanks

The most important quality to have in a debate is the ability to accurately discern the reasoning behind an argument. Grammar is definitely helpful, but in this case I’d hazard a guess that he’s not a native English speaker.

You understood his posts, right? That’s good enough.

Pope.1469:

imerp.7968:

TheGuy.3568:

As of this moment your just another person whining about the tone of my speech. I think its about time you all get over it. Argue the facts or give it a rest.

Learn the different between your and you’re before trying to argue.

Thanks

The most important quality to have in a debate is the ability to accurately discern the reasoning behind an argument. Grammar is definitely helpful, but in this case I’d hazard a guess that he’s not a native English speaker.

You understood his posts, right? That’s good enough.

But.. but people post in the forums because they want their stuff critiqued. Ask him he laid down this new precedent.

You know what is truly a good quality? Not making presumptions about other people.

Thanks

imerp.7968:

Pope.1469:

imerp.7968:

TheGuy.3568:

As of this moment your just another person whining about the tone of my speech. I think its about time you all get over it. Argue the facts or give it a rest.

Learn the different between your and you’re before trying to argue.

Thanks

The most important quality to have in a debate is the ability to accurately discern the reasoning behind an argument. Grammar is definitely helpful, but in this case I’d hazard a guess that he’s not a native English speaker.

You understood his posts, right? That’s good enough.

But.. but people post in the forums because they want their stuff critiqued. Ask him he laid down this new precedent.

You know what is truly a good quality? Not making presumptions about other people.

Thanks

Thanks for the advice. Allow me to return the favor: Try to stay within the scope of the discussion in threads next time. This isn’t really aimed specifically at you, but everyone here who seems to take any sort of comment personally.

TheGuy.3568:

Very awkward histrionics

http://i.imgur.com/r95wxzj.jpg

Straegen.2938:

Much like my thief laughs at my Ranger in WvW, my Ranger laughs at my thief in PvE. The SB can deliver some ridiculously high AoE DPS but I can solo drop champions and massive mobs with my Ranger in PvE without worry of going down. The thief is just too glassy to be considered “good” in PvE and your video proves it.

I would like to see a Ranger take on that many Risen.