Guild Wars 2

Hi there !
So I am struggling to make a thief build, wich is why i made this topic.
I have tried alot of builds but nothing seems to work out for me, so i’m asking you guys if you know a Thief build wich has the following requirements :
- it needs to be D/D , P/P
- Condition damage build
- Bleed out build
- PvE
-No venom please

And i would love to know what kind of runes i need to use on my armor and what kind of armor i need to use (Vitality, Power, .. ), and also wich trinkets and other vanity items i need to use and what runes they need, The same goes for what runes i need to use on my Daggers and Pistols and what kind of Daggers and Pistols i need to have( Healing power, precision, ..) .

Thanks ^^

Is this mainly for overworld PVE or for dungeons?

D/D, P/P seems like an odd combination for a condition damage setup, so I can only assume there are aesthetic or RP reasons behind the choice.

Mainly for PvE and the weapon combination is just because i like them both so .. sorry :p

But Shortbow would also be good .. but i’d rather have the pistols as secondary

Why not use the P/D weaponset. It’s already a meta condi build, and brings bleeds and torment.

Why Conditions and not Power based, if you like the weapons, both sets are better with power.

It seems clear that OP understands both sets work better with power, but he wants to focus on condition damage. That being said, here are my two attempts. The only differences are the item prefixes and runes.

D/D, P/P Carrion
Pros:

• More condition damage (1,740 all together, 2,005 with Corruption stacks)
• More vitality (around 7,000 HP)

Cons:

• No precision means a huge loss in potential damage from things like Backstab, Heartseeker, Unload, etc.
• Too many unnecessary stats (a thief doesn’t need 19,000 HP in PVE)

D/D, P/P Rampager
Pros:

• 60% critical chance without fury (80% with), so there is a possibility to use critical proccing sigils if desired
• 10% increased damage when Backstabbing from Rune of the Thief
• Less HP means you’ll focus more on reading enemy tells and using your dodges and evades wisely

Cons:

• Less condition damage than the Carrion setup
• Lack of ferocity means critical hits will only gain the innate 50% increase in bonus damage
• Less bleeding duration and no bleeds when struck because of the change from Krait to Thief runes

My Opinion:
If you really want to run D/D, P/P with condition damage, you’re best going for the Rampager build. You won’t be doing as much condition damage as the Carrion setup, but you’ll more than make up for that with your critical hits. Utilities are also up in the air, but I prefer those three for PVE. I understand this isn’t the most optimal build, but it could actually be quite a fun playstyle to try out.

First of all, thanks for all the replies and the support of helping me trying to find the optimal build. So I was thinking last night I maybe could use a power build, after talking to my friend, he 2 said i’d better be off with power as I told what kinda build I wanted. and i’m okay with that but i would still like to do some bleeding damage though. so D/D P/P power with a bit Bleeding damage .. could that be possible ?

Thx ^^