Guild Wars 2

So when i made my thief i figured id be really good 1v1 and catching enemies off guard. I figured i would really only be meant for roaming around and picking people off and be kinda useless in stand off and siege / defense.

Well I’m more than happy with my ability to kill in the situation i mentioned above.
I"m D/D and short bow, mostly damage spec with stealth traites.

Now for those other situations, I actually feel more effective than my ranger in keep defense, cluster bombs and poison clouds can really hinder an attack at the front door. even when they are inside i can attack with bow from above and if an enemy does come up after me i tear them apart in melee.

Now in standoffs i can be effctive with bow but i luv waiting for an enemy to get too close then i use imobolize venon, Shadowstep steal, (mug) (stealth) backstab, dancing dagger, at this point the target is down or will be from others attacking from my side so i retreat back,(many tools get back safely) and let my side finish him off.

Another amazing tool that alot of thiefs dont utolize is short bow shadow shot. very good for traveling as well as getting to safety when enemys have you crippled or are just on top you.

I cant tell if your a troll or not.

Let me explain something to you,

ANets vision for this game is that: All classes should be able to perform all roles

Ie all classes should have ranged and melee condition builds, support builds, damage mitigation builds, ranged and melee nuke builds and ranged and melee AoE builds.

The only bit in your post I agree with is the shadow shot being useful for travelling. Rangers can equal the melee DPS of a thief and do significantly more ranged dps. I did a calculation of shortbow vs shortbow if you want to check the thiefs 1200 range post.

but i’m glad you have found a class you enjoy

Dronin.3957:

I cant tell if your a troll or not.

Let me explain something to you,

ANets vision for this game is that: All classes should be able to perform all roles

Ie all classes should have ranged and melee condition builds, support builds, damage mitigation builds, ranged and melee nuke builds and ranged and melee AoE builds.

The only bit in your post I agree with is the shadow shot being useful for travelling. Rangers can equal the melee DPS of a thief and do significantly more ranged dps. I did a calculation of shortbow vs shortbow if you want to check the thiefs 1200 range post.

but i’m glad you have found a class you enjoy

Likewise can’t tell if you are troll or just kitten.

OP is saying that thief excels in many roles, especially ones that he thought the traditional ranged weapon class “ranger” would be better at.

Thief definately has a great synergy between devistating melee and powerful ranged options. Ranger short bow is pretty good, but I couldn’t agree that it is “better” than thief short bow, and I’d be more inclined to say the opposite is true, especially when you consider that thief can afford to stack damage/crit and still have great survivability, something a ranger cannot do (unless they enjoy dying a lot).

Thief melee is of course amazing compared to Ranger, as is your claim that Ranger can equal them.

devastating*

I would argue that our ranged options are not powerful bar using short bow in melee or using pistol dagger to kite, In fact I think you might find that its the general consensus on this forum, It has led to a lot of people asking for a third ranged choice in the rifle.

Ranger melee is great, the Sword + Warhorn can = the burst of a theif over a few seconds. You can still kill the heavy golem in under 4 seconds as a ranger using Melee.

Rangers short bow can do more damage to 1 target than the thiefs to 3 including the pet as listed here https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/WvW-and-events-1200-range/page/2

I had no intensions of trolling but myself and others dont feel the class we have been playing since beta is fine due to having a few gimmicky specs

sorry if it came across hostile

WoW i wasnt expecting any of that…… most people look at the thief as just a 1v1 class or your taditional assasin that doest do much other than kill people who are alone or not paying attention. I was just letting people they are good in other situations as i have found the more i WvW.
As for compared to my ranger, he is a good sniper and can take 1 target down fast, barrage is very effective but my thiefs shortbow, being able to do a cluster bomb every 3 seconds with some insane crits seems to hurt the attacking force alot more, it may not get finishing off kills but that combined with them being poisoned for 30seconds, seems to make groups of people back off out of action and wait for their heal.

I was not saying a thief is better than a ranger, i was just listing some ways that a thief is effective where people woulnt expect your assasin type class to be effective. in no way do i see how this could be looked at as trolling………. not everyone has mastered the thief class, just giving people ideas and thing they can try while playing a thief.

if you luv your shortbow ranger that much that cools but you dont have to get all worked up because someone says another class is also effective at things similar

Apologise then I suppose im just annoyed with so many people coming here saying the thief is better than this and that and most overpowered pvp class etc. Glad you enjoy it

Let me clearify, i was not saying a thief is better than a ranger at anything, i was just saying a thief is effective with a shortbow at defending a keep

Melee in WvW… I can’t take that serious. Ranger > Thief in WvW, dominate with Longbow 24/7.