Guild Wars 2

does anything forget to consider if these new changes hurt thieves more than other classes? i think thats an important perspective to have in this situation. and if so…wtf do we get for the indirect nerf?

Thieves deal 15% (estimated) less dmg which makes conditions stronger
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Guardians + 3000HP
Guardians + 33% more burning dmg to the already highest dmging condi in game
Guardians + Retaliation Damage scales with condition damage instead of power
Warriors +1000 Toughness after a stun
Elementalists + Cannot be critically hit while attuned to earth.

wow. we go down. they go up. im only comparing that we lose so much dmg and other classes get survival buffs.

You can’t honestly call condi guardian a buff, lol. However the new GM traits on thief don’t seem all that appealing but its not all bad.

Power thief ain’t going 30 into DA unless they enjoy being aa to death as a full glass cannon. Also they aren’t going to waste time with a mediocre heal over executioner or even hidden killer. The 50% dmg reduction might have some competition for stealth builds if they pair it with shadow protector but I doubt it works against conditions which is a major problem for thief (condi spam that is). Stability on reveal, seems pointless especially for 1 second. Not saying it should be perma, but just the thought of it is kitten. Make Hard to catch grant stability and ss away (or break stun atleast), you can’t work with 1s especially for a GM trait. Last one seems promising for p/d condi builds tbh, and its nice because its in a trait line that has condi dmg but sleight of hand is pretty tough to beat.

It seems nice at first for condi builds. Until you realize perplexity+SoH is 10000 times better

Condi Guardians do not, will not and can not exist. They rely on one condition and one condition alone, which can be cleansed without any effort at all. The very notion is laughable and you should be ashamed for promoting it.

Warriors are not going to replace Merciless Hammer (along with Cleansing Ire and Dogged March) for that trait. That’s where most of their damage comes from.

Eles can’t accomplish much while in Earth attunement. They’ll turtle for a little while with some mediocre or easily avoided attacks but they will not be a threat in that state. As soon as they come out of the attunement to counterattack, you can go ham again.

Idk. With the new guardian traits condi guard could definitely be a thing, especially with doom sigils/perplex. Their burn is getting huge DPS increase, and retaliation would basically be another condi with the trait in radiance. Could work out with a mix of carrion/rabid

What kind of INSANE Guardian is going to take both 30 Zeal and Radiance? One that wants to collapse dead instantly, that’s what.