Guild Wars 2

I see this topic sometimes discussed on the forums, but I never seen it discussed in detail.

Just wondering how this would work. I assume Thrill of the Crime & Furious Retaliation with the +Fury duration runes.

Anyone able to elaborate?

It’s perms fury… I don’t run totc anymore tho but it’s still a large uptime on fury…

I’m not sure why fury runs are not used as often in spvp. I see mostly pack or orge scholar… Since revamp on runes I been running fury and some sort of alternate source of fury….

If it starts with “perma-” they are trying to blow it out of proportion so anet will nerf it. Usually the person has no clue what they are talking about or they have nothing to base their claims on and will fight you with every logical fallacy if you question them.

Furious Retaliation procs and Thrill of the Crime like you said. or a combination of either (or both) of these traits (Thrill of the Crime more prominently) with a Rune such as: Pack, Citadel, Rage and maybe Altruism (not sure about the latter)

And like mentioned by the others, when people say ‘Perma’, it’s not really permanent.
It’s really only achieveable for a (solo) Thief to maintain “Perma Fury” whilst in combat and even then it relies on procs and ICD’s, meaning it’s essentially bound to timers which leads to the conclusion that you can have a long Fury uptime, but not exactly ‘permanent’.

@Swinsk, What rune are you talking about (as in, full name)? I can’t recall there being a “Rune of Fury”, but that’s possibly just me not remembering it.

EDIT:
So I went for a quick check on the Wiki… I can’t find the runes you’re talking about, Swinsk :P

Vornollo.5182:

@Swinsk, What rune are you talking about (as in, full name)? I can’t recall there being a “Rune of Fury”, but that’s possibly just me not remembering it.

EDIT:
So I went for a quick check on the Wiki… I can’t find the runes you’re talking about, Swinsk :P

It’s called Rage Rune.

Assuming WvW.

Fury type runes can give +30 percent extended Fury duration.

Now if one traits a x/x/x/6/x/build you get another 30 percent boon duration. One food provides +20 percent boon duration along with might on crit no cooldown.

That gives you 80 percent boon duration on fury meaning if traited for 21 second steal you get 18 seconds per steal and the on hit proc of rage will get you 27 seconds with a 30 second cooldown. Furious retal is not needed.

Another method is to use Platinum doubloons to boost boon durations even higher. This latter method also allows much more in the way of might stacking and near permanent vigor and swiftness along with that fury. You can get a raw duration of 80 percent on boons without any duration coming from your runes at all. You do sacrifice here in that you can not use ascended trinkets and also lose out on the gems that boost traits but will find much of this made up for by extra might stacking that permanent fury vigor and swiftness. Added to this boons like Regen have a high uptrime as well. This alone allows something like rune of the pack to proc an additional 18 (along with a full 20 secs switfness) seconds fury when struck on a 20 second cooldown.

I even tried this with assassins equilibrium which I managed to get a full 3 seconds of stability out of when attacking from stealth.

Just having Thrill of the Crime with Sleight of Hand (10sec of fury every 21.5sec) and Runes of the Pack (10sec of fury every ~20sec) will give you and your group a very high uptime on fury. If anyone else in the group is sharing fury also, or if you happen to steal some with Bountiful Theft, it adds up to continual fury pretty easily.

Sir Vincent III.1286:

Vornollo.5182:

@Swinsk, What rune are you talking about (as in, full name)? I can’t recall there being a “Rune of Fury”, but that’s possibly just me not remembering it.

EDIT:
So I went for a quick check on the Wiki… I can’t find the runes you’re talking about, Swinsk :P

It’s called Rage Rune.

Ah, so it was one of those that I noted but he called it different I guess.
Or we’re both missing something. If that’s the case, I hope that Swinsk himself replies

or just go pack runes + 6 in trickery (thrill of the crime, sleight of hand)
→ assuming you got no boon duration you’ll have (ideally, but close to) 20/21,5s fury in a fight