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Posted by: ZennithRising.8653

ZennithRising.8653

Hello all!

So I am just back from a long 9 month break from the game… I run a thief, and I like PvE (i know not the best combination). My specs are like this: 30 Critical, 15 Acrobatics, 25 Trickery. I rely much on the stealing buffs and dodge buffs and I also like to support my teammates. Now I asked around and seen plenty of forums, but I can`t decide! I take into account that the game changed much (!) from back when this spec was good for me. But today I just kept dying in the dungeons, besides that I have exotic armor, and people said that I should respec/change armor spec. I would also like to mention that I like using the short bow (a lot) and maybe dd? So I would like something that can keep me up, but also do some serious damage, maybe some support for my mates?

Any information/ advice would help!

Also I think I need new armor and weapons, and taking into account the karma vendors aswell cause I have plenty of unspent karma… so if you could advise me with some armor aswell.

Thanks!

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Posted by: Stx.4857

Stx.4857

Well, if you are having trouble surviving, that doesn’t necessarily mean you should change to a spec that reduces your damage output.

I would start by wearing some pieces of soldiers gear in the helm/chest/leg slots, the toughness/vitality will increase your survival.

The most used specs for damage in dungeons are 25/30/0/0/15 for short fights or 30/30/10/0/0 for longer fights(this spec takes the +2 initiative on stealth ability so you can keep up a solid cloak and dagger > backstab rotation).

You can run 25/30/0/15/0 for more dodges/health, which isn’t too much of a dps loss, but I would still recommend using the better dps rotations and using a little vitality gear.

All accessories should be berserkers. Gloves, shoulders, and boots should be berserkers too. If you need more survival, get some power/vitality/toughness gear for chest, helm, legs, and if you must, weapon slots too. You can make up for the loss of crit with signet, sigil stacks, fury, and food.

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Posted by: DanH.5879

DanH.5879

… I take into account that the game changed much (!) from back when this spec was good for me. But today I just kept dying in the dungeons, besides that I have exotic armor, and people said that I should respec/change armor spec. I would also like to mention that I like using the short bow (a lot) and maybe dd? So I would like something that can keep me up, but also do some serious damage, maybe some support for my mates?

Any information/ advice would help!…
Thanks!

Hi. 1.delete thief
2.and create a warrior/guardian

you are welcome

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Posted by: Sir Vincent III.1286

Sir Vincent III.1286

But today I just kept dying in the dungeons,

Problem #1:
This can mean anything;
- too much damage output = grabbing aggro = dead
- not healing yourself = dead
- standing on the “fire” (any pool that deals damage) = dead
- failed to dodge = dead
- afk = dead
- DC’ed = dead
- cat jumped on the keyboard = dead
- dog chewed on the power cord = dead + dead pet (possibly)

..and so on. So which is it?

besides that I have exotic armor, and people said that I should respec/change armor spec.

Problem #2:
Thief don’t rely on passive protection like armor, they rely on active protection like dodge, evade, and stealth.

So what is your current build? That included armor, runes, weapons, sigils, and traits.

I would also like to mention that I like using the short bow (a lot) and maybe dd? So I would like something that can keep me up, but also do some serious damage, maybe some support for my mates?

Problem #3:
You’re trying to be a jack-of-all-trade but a Thief is a specialist. If you want to do all these, I’ll take that warrior suggestion above.

If you play a Warrior, you get the bigger version of the weapons you want. You get Longbow instead of Shortbow, and you get dual swords instead of dual daggers.

Any information/ advice would help!

Also I think I need new armor and weapons, and taking into account the karma vendors aswell cause I have plenty of unspent karma… so if you could advise me with some armor aswell.

Thanks!

Solve the problems above. Then if you still decide to stay as thief, there’s a lot of thread that you can pick and choose to match your playstyle. But first, solve #1 (find your weakness), #2 (find your playstyle), and #3 (find your purpose).

GL.

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Posted by: Stooperdale.3560

Stooperdale.3560

The build isn’t so important. There are quite a lot of different builds you can use and yours should be viable, however you need to look where your defenses are. Are you getting blinds onto trash mobs? Are you dealing enough hits to heal through with signet of malice? Are you getting easy condition cures? Are you getting missile defense up every time it is needed? Are there times you can shadowstep in and out of danger? You can fix some of these things with utilities but using a pistol or sword can give some defense as well without changing your build. (and without perfect reflexes).

You could try taking 10 points out of trickery to put into shadow arts so that you get a choice of defenses when you go into stealth. That can work well with cloak and dagger.

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Posted by: ZennithRising.8653

ZennithRising.8653

Well I liked your replies! Thanks! I`ve figured I should experiment a little with 30/20/0/20/0 and so far so good… decent health pool, crit. and dps! Now actually I am the last one to fall in the group! … I will try out the warrior and guradian cause i`ve heard so much about them, and that two (plus mesmer) are the only ones that I haven`t tried out yet… Thanks guys, I knew I can rely on GW2 community!

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Posted by: DanH.5879

DanH.5879

guardian has the TANK and is THE SUPPORT for the team
warrior has the DAMAGE and can be the TANK&SUPPORT for the team (banners/aoe heals etc.)

thief ? 1 mistake or 1 moment of lag and you beg for res, sure you have 1 extra dodge on some builds… but can you use them effectively ? damage is good, rest is bottom
ShadowRefuge and stealth in general is overrated too

overall thief = 1/2 to 3/4 of any remaining class
thief is best at killing scrubs in wvw 1 vs 1, but even at that, is not so good anymore

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Posted by: LONGA.1652

LONGA.1652

Thief stealth arn,t really necessary in PvE. Because you can just kite easy.Even back pedaling is viable.
Signet of malice only seem to synergy well with SWD/P ,P/P with ricochet trait since you are doing so many hit in a short time that you can face tank some mob.
But for dungeon I sticking to dodging still be the best thing you can do. Only use shadow refuge for skipping mobs.
I ran my thief with rune of Altruism.Pretty nice crit from perms fury.And nice might stack that stick long enough to keep the DPS going.

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Posted by: freelancecoma.8629

freelancecoma.8629

Ah, well I would form a goal first, then design a build around that goal. A good pve thief knows that the more damage he does, the more he must compensate for the extra risk he takes to do it.