Guild Wars 2

[Video] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiDeTc006B8

Dear fellow thieves

It is I Prince Vante, destroyer of servers, son of a great King. My mission is to get our entire class deleted by giving you these wonderful gifts I bare. I present you the ultimate S/D + SB builds in the entire universe. Before you try these builds you must train in 100x gravity and study my awesome video because it takes some skill to use these efficiently. In my video I have some old and new clips showing some awesome fights with these two builds solo (group videos soon to come):

Prince Vante’s A build: http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mckmzc0zMMlvFoMbvTmaGax0czaVcRM8khS7kiH7kil707kiH7khA7kIn70V7ofD70m8ofY

Brief summary; what you want to do with this build is build up your might with dodges and conserve at least 6 ish initiative for max damage, not as hard as it sounds really, this build is also what you want to start off with because it has more hp and way more room for mistakes. Also daze lock to the butt as usual.

Best Food to use: Superior Sharpening Stones (Gain power equal to 6% of your toughness, Gain power equal to 4% of your vitality…it can also be used with other foods at the same time) Bowls of orrian Truffle and Meat stew ( 100% chance to gain might when dodge) or Mango Pies (Gain health every second +70 vitality) if you want to be more tanky

Prince Vante’s B build: http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mckmzc0zMMlvFoMbvTmaxaG0czaqVcR8khS7kiH7kil707kiH7khA7kIn70V7ofD70m8ofY

Brief summary; This build is for all you high crit damage junkys out there, its no glass cannon but it hits very hard and has great survival, if you know what your doing that is. it’s less forgiving if you get hit and more reliant on your svanir rune to save your butt when you really mess up. Oh yes and daze lock to the butt as usual.

Best food to use:Superior Sharpening Stones (Gain power equal to 6% of your toughness, Gain power equal to 4% of your vitality…it can also be used with other foods at the same time) Mango Pies (Gain health every second +70 vitality)

~Gear~
Helm: Valkyrie
Shoulder: Beserker
Chest: Beserker
Hands: Valkyrie
Legs: Valkyrie
Boots: Valkyrie

Jewels: full Berserker

Sword: Berserker
(2)Daggers: Beserker (sigil of fire and sigil of bloodlust on each)
Shortbow: Mystic Crescent

Q/A

Q: Hey Vante why is your video so effing long?
A: Because it is very hard to show the awsomeness of these 2 builds for the very first time in just 10 minutes. No seriously it could have been 40 mins+..

Q: Hey Vante im actually dying with these amazing builds how could this be? :<
A: use infiltrator’s strike + shadow return more it is your fwend !

Q: LOL WTF WHY SVANIR RUNE?
A: why you ask? Because it turns you into a block of invincible ice and gives you 2 or more lives 100% guaranteed if you use it right with your shadowstep + shadow returns,yes 100% guaranteed lol.

“Basically for every 90s cd you become invulnerable if you get down to 20% health for 5 seconds it works well with the last refuge trait and it gives you a high chance to get away.
Also if you save your shadowstep or shadow return at the right time you can just blink while you are invulnerable during that 5 second duration lol its fking great.”

Q: why are you so good Vante?
A: I am the internet’s jesus.

Q: is the food your suggesting the only best food I should be eating for these builds to be super duper stronk?
A: no but its what I use personally and what I used in my video

Enjoy!

P.S. My speech bubbles are amazing ef you.

How does rune of svanir give you ‘2 or more lives 100% guaranteed’?

Basically for every 90s cd you become invulnerable if you get down to 20% health for 5 seconds it works well with the last refuge trait and it gives you a high chance to get away.

Also if you save your shadowstep or shadow return at the right time you can just blink while you are invulnerable during that 5 second duration lol its fking great.

I think for s/d builds 10/30/30/0/0 is probably optimal. Same gear and damage as yours but 30 into shadow provides very high survivability (4k heal plus 2 condition removed per 4 seconds stealth from every CnD). The acrobat tree pales slightly in comparison for the purpose of killing through daze locking and autos while maintaining own hp pool to reappear out of stealth.

Aside from my opinion thanks for the cool vid and post!

Foehn.2489:

I think for s/d builds 10/30/30/0/0 is probably optimal. Same gear and damage as yours but 30 into shadow provides very high survivability (4k heal plus 2 condition removed per 4 seconds stealth from every CnD). The acrobat tree pales slightly in comparison for the purpose of killing through daze locking and autos while maintaining own hp pool to reappear out of stealth.

Aside from my opinion thanks for the cool vid and post!

I tried that build, and the thing is with that build is I feel fat(less fast) and even more dependent on stealth. If you miss a CnD or your stealth skills are on cd you only have 2 dodges and a far less hp pool.

If you saw my video it shows me dodging all over the place inside of a zerg, which wont be as easy with the 10/30/30/0/0 build. One thing I really like about 30 shadow arts though is the stealth regen..its pretty sick but Mango Pie does a good enough job for me when I mix it with these builds.

Also IMO vitality > toughness for a thief at least

First and foremost, arrogant way of posting. “Destroyer of Servers”.. Foo!

Second, the build is really just all about helping thieves survive in a battle. You traded high output damage for survival thus allowing you to stay longer in the heat of battle. Most of your opponents don’t know what to do when faced with a thief that continuously hides and blinks.

PS:
No offense but most of your targets are small fry.

Lockon.5312:

First and foremost, arrogant way of posting. “Destroyer of Servers”.. Foo!

Second, the build is really just all about helping thieves survive in a battle. You traded high output damage for survival thus allowing you to stay longer in the heat of battle. Most of your opponents don’t know what to do when faced with a thief that continuously hides and blinks.

PS:
No offense but most of your targets are small fry.

“First and foremost, arrogant way of posting. “Destroyer of Servers”.. Foo!"

lol L2 know what trolling is bro

“Most of your opponents don’t know what to do when faced with a thief that continuously hides and blinks.” “No offense but most of your targets are small fry.”

Honestly you cant fault me for that, most of the player base (pvp wise) in GW2 are pretty horrible :C and as SBI just got knocked down a tier its even worse… lol

Honestly i can fault you for that “targeting small fry”. A lot of thief players always kick it up a notch by challenging the menu. I do a lot of solo raids and the small fry are easy pick everyone knows that and the real game and deal breaker is where you find a worthy opponent. I’m hunting in WvW right now as I type this testing out another concept build.

Scouting for a challenge is the thrill and not picking flies.

when you say small frys do you mean players that dont have skill that arent too great or? if so I actually found a few good 1v1s here in there recorded ill post soon..but I dunno what to say lol 1v2s 1v3s+ and 10+ people targeting me while I kill someone is kind of a challenge.. did you watch the entire video?

when you are starting a fight, picking up the right target is the first thing to do.
a right target choice has to be appreciated, not blamed.

For your style of play I would recommend 0/25/30/15/0. Losing Mug is a kick in the balls but other than that its awesome, you can survive for days with tons of endurance regen plus HP regen from stealthing.

I’ve thought about those runes. Still using 6x ruby orbs. I could swap around gear to keep my crit and critdmg% the same but would loose 120 power and 1200 health swapping to those runes.

Question is, do you ever rage at it stopping you from completing a stomp you probably could have gotten away with? That’s the only real negative I can think of aside from the power loss.

The immune breaks if you use a stun breaker right? There was a patch note stating that change a while back but maybe they forgot to say pvp only.

I love your post Vante! very funny

“when you are starting a fight, picking up the right target is the first thing to do.
a right target choice has to be appreciated, not blamed.”

^^^^^ exactly, when your getting jumped by 10 people and 1-2 of them is a weak old man I think going for them is the smartest thing to do

“For your style of play I would recommend 0/25/30/15/0. Losing Mug is a kick in the balls but other than that its awesome, you can survive for days with tons of endurance regen plus HP regen from stealthing.”

wow thats insane how you mention that build because I thought I kinda created it on my own while experimenting around with my build, but when I tried it..it felt kinda MEH because of losing the mug trait lol I have no idea why but it just wasnt the same.

Also yea I love the regen on stealth thing too but either way I use Mango Pies (Gain health every second +70 vitality) food. Its not better but it does the job done and also heals while im out of stealth.

“Question is, do you ever rage at it stopping you from completing a stomp you probably could have gotten away with? That’s the only real negative I can think of aside from the power loss.
The immune breaks if you use a stun breaker right? There was a patch note stating that change a while back but maybe they forgot to say pvp only.”

lol thats actually funny how you mention that because that actually happened in my video but the block of ice saved me more then I could get mad at it honestly. You know when sometimes you go for a stomp even though people are swinging around and aoeing around the downed person? yea it saved me from killing myself over my uncontrollable bloodlust.

yea and if you use a stun break you get right out of it (ive done it a ton of times in my video). Also what they fixed back then is the fact that you could sit in that state and still capture nodes in spvp, that is the only thing they changed about it if im not mistaken.

“I love your post Vante! very funny”

rofl glad someone around here has a sense of humor

Yea I’m thinking of the times I die most and it’s during dumb, greedy stomps I should never go for, greedy extra attacks out of stealth that get me imobilzed/KD and a swarm on me or any burst bro showing up to the party late I don’t notice. The ice block is really attractive in all of those situations. I just know I’ll get all mad at it thinking I could have made the stomp when it really probably saved me.

So now I decide… 120 power (4-6% dmg) and 1200 health or Ice block… hmmmmmm

edit: also this change won’t be cheap.. loadstones for the runes and I’ll need 3 new exotics bah

What about spvp runes and sigils ??

@stiv yea imo the svanir really boost my survival and its good for when those burst glass cannons catch you off guard

@CachoDM same runes but sigils are different because of the para one not working in spvp so atm I just use 5% damage on the sword and fire on the dagger..also energy on my bow

LMAO Vante I would absolutely obliterate you, I’m a thief and my builds a secret but I hope your half as good as you say because I’m amazing and will gladly transfer to show you how a real top notch tourny thief is played….

Not joking, not lying, definitely would destroy you.

This reminds me of another post from the elementalist forum.
Another poster with wall of text about his amazing abilities creating fake Q/A, dunno maybe he wanted a medal. But he did teach me about using Chuning earth + Lightning flash combo.

I love you big shots players, you pretty much do what many players see as completely casual. (but since you’re so insecure and need someone to massage your ego you make these kind of threads).

I do applaud to you sir, however, for teaching me about the svanir rune trick. +1 like for that.

Nice video and trolling, keep them comming!

Fun vid and fun vid thread Vante Win/Win !

Those runes weren’t as expsnsive as I thought. they sell way under the mats price. No one must use them. I would think they would be great for glassy builds in PvE since it’s a free save.

Anyway, swapped out a p/v/t ring and my p/v/t/ chest for zerker of each (to mitigate ruby orb dmg loss). Gave up 120 power, 1200 health and about 4% critdmg%. Gained 36 per, 45 tough and of course Iceblock (cost me about 10g total).

I was leery at first because the first time it went off it was from taking more than 20% in one shot (cannon blew me up) and I was downed in the iceblock but after that all it did was create a ton of win win win win win. The rune set is really amazing and well worth the stats I lost (for me).

I was having some trouble with my lv 60 thief while using a d/d build but then I tried this s/d one and I seem to be getting better results.
Thanks for sharing.

Also, what trinkets were you using?

Vante, what are your thoughts on Superior Runes of Vampirism? They give a similar invulnerability but have more useful stats.

Taiyetos.3260:

Vante, what are your thoughts on Superior Runes of Vampirism? They give a similar invulnerability but have more useful stats.

10% health proc level is too low. Even with a 20% proc level you will at times get fully killed without it ever going off like me and the cannon last night.

Entertaining post. Good times.

Tried omnom ghosts? +325 hp per crit, no cooldown.

“Nice video and trolling, keep them comming!” “Fun vid and fun vid thread Vante Win/Win !” “Entertaining post. Good times.”

haha thanks and I will do a duo video next with a good friend of mine for the next one (just need to edit it)

“Those runes weren’t as expsnsive as I thought. they sell way under the mats price. No one must use them. I would think they would be great for glassy builds in PvE since it’s a free save.
Anyway, swapped out a p/v/t ring and my p/v/t/ chest for zerker of each (to mitigate ruby orb dmg loss). Gave up 120 power, 1200 health and about 4% critdmg%. Gained 36 per, 45 tough and of course Iceblock (cost me about 10g total).”

The svanir rune was actually cheaper then whats up now a while back actually lool I just tried it one day and was in awe.

I rather have this rune then a dps rune because it just adds lots of defense and second chance, lol also the ice increase duration actually works with the elementalist steal so those stats arent totally useless haha. Most of my dps comes from my full zerk jewels and traits 4k crits are good enough for me really imo.

“I was leery at first because the first time it went off it was from taking more than 20% in one shot (cannon blew me up) and I was downed in the iceblock but after that all it did was create a ton of win win win win win. The rune set is really amazing and well worth the stats I lost (for me).”

rofl yes Iceblock has a mind of its own, Iceblock does what it wants. I remember for about 30mins strait it wasnt saving me at all as soon as I switch to my build with more vitality but then it fixed itself after awhile (I think it was the dots that killed me threw it around those times), but yea its awesome and im surprised no one really used this rune lol

“Vante, what are your thoughts on Superior Runes of Vampirism? They give a similar invulnerability but have more useful stats.”

Big effing disappointment. I came across it one day while doing spvp stuff and I was ready to scrap svanir for it if it worked the same way as iceblock..I was thinking you were actually able to move while your mist form and it goes off reliably but nope :C Stiv pretty much summed it up.

“Tried omnom ghosts? +325 hp per crit, no cooldown.”

yea its pretty awesome but I prefer to use it while im in a group just because my Mango pie gives me regen for just doing nothing and since I dont have regen on stealth trait (which is pretty awesome) mango pie gets the job done almost as good.

“I was having some trouble with my lv 60 thief while using a d/d build but then I tried this s/d one and I seem to be getting better results.
Thanks for sharing.
Also, what trinkets were you using?”

np bud glad I could help ^__^ and I use full zerk jewels

http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mckmzc0zMMlvFoMbvTmax0ffczoqoV08khS7kij7kiH707kiH7khA7kNb70V7ofD70m8ofY

thoughts?
10 30 0 15 15

Acotje.5689:

http://www.guildhead.com/skill-calc#mckmzc0zMMlvFoMbvTmax0ffczoqoV08khS7kij7kiH707kiH7khA7kNb70V7ofD70m8ofY

thoughts?
10 30 0 15 15

that looks like it could actually work, looks like it could be great for grouping and spvp stuff but isnt it kinda scary without the infusion of shadow trait? or does the extra initiative from trickery make up for it?

Got an infraction already so had to repost this, first time using this forum with this topic. Im sure ill be banned from forums soon lmao..

Firegoth.6427:

QQ x50

You should get that coool story published bro.

Rocky.8195:

LMAO Vante I would absolutely obliterate you, I’m a thief and my builds a secret but I hope your half as good as you say because I’m amazing and will gladly transfer to show you how a real top notch tourny thief is played….

Not joking, not lying, definitely would destroy you.

LOOOOL you dont even lift bro ! you know what server im on, come at me guy. My guild tag in wvw is “My name is Vante” [VanT], SUP.

Yea infractions are pretty common with these mods. That stuff for instance is nothing but fun trolollol smack talk yet you can’t do it here. Pretty lame.

Vante , i used ur ways and what do u think about superior rune of Dolyak ? it can better than Svanir ?

Hey very nice build, and great video! I swear I fought you outside of anz today if you can remember a TC charr ele in cof armor. Sadly was lagging out and logged soon after if that was you. Curse ye bad internet!

I’m curious what trinkets you’re using. I may give it a try on my thief

Not a huge fan of D/D thief so I may just have to give this build a go. ^^

Good to see another S/D Thief in WvW!

The video was a bit long for its repetitiveness (not your fault), but it was pretty enjoyable overall; I’d probably cut back on some of the sound effects, but that’s just me.

“Vante , i used ur ways and what do u think about superior rune of Dolyak ? it can better than Svanir ?”

the vitality in there is pretty nice but the svanir rune is just to amazing it gives you an extra chance in a fight and I think that just makes it way better because of that

“Hey very nice build, and great video! I swear I fought you outside of anz today if you can remember a TC charr ele in cof armor. Sadly was lagging out and logged soon after if that was you. Curse ye bad internet!
I’m curious what trinkets you’re using. I may give it a try on my thief
Not a huge fan of D/D thief so I may just have to give this build a go”

lmao yes I remember you I was charging at you and then you just went poof I lold, but yea im using full berserker jewels

“Good to see another S/D Thief in WvW!
The video was a bit long for its repetitiveness (not your fault), but it was pretty enjoyable overall; I’d probably cut back on some of the sound effects, but that’s just me.”

lool yea I honestly didnt know what to do with my video, this is my very first pvp video (havnt got to make one in the past because I had a poop computer before). yea lool I agree but im just in love with my killer instincts/marvel vs capcom 2 sound effects ill just tone it down next time. oh and the reason it was like 30 mins long is because I really wanted to show the effectiveness of this build for the first time all my other videos will be like 10-15 mins. ;o