Guild Wars 2

Hello fellow Thieves,

For the past two days I have started recording footage of WvW, this video takes place during the Tarnished Coast | Blackgate | Fort Aspenwood match up.

The video can be watched in High Quality at: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-af8EUYjOZs

I am new to movie maker so pretty poor at editing, but am planning on getting much more footage and putting more videos together. Please feel free to leave feedback/comments/questions.

Enjoy!

Nice video! You definitely have a good understanding of stealth mechanics. What stood out to me the most is your expert use of Shadowstep throughout the video. Very clutch gameplay. Sadly I think we lost all of those disloyal transfers from 4 weeks back that helped us win 2 weeks in a row. It’s pathetic to see people jump ship the moment things look bad. ArenaNet needs to make transfers a paid service instead of letting every Joe kittenwap when the server s/he’s on is losing.

Nice. What’s your build here with traits and gear?

Impressive video! Ive exclusively played sPVP so I have yet to touch W3 however some observations…

1) Was that server just….unusually bad or? 9/10 times the dude youre attacking didnt even try to fight back just run away and OFFER his back to you?
2) There are several points where you run, unstealthed, through hordes of enemy players and no one even notices you or bothers to attack you. Why?
3) Apparently one of the benefits of W3 is not everyone has max-tier armor/gems like sPVP. I can’t ever think of a time…ever…whirling axe has summarily crit for over 10k for me against anything in sPVP. Max 5-6 normally. I imagine its just scrubs wearing AH armor.
4) That fight scene with you bouncing between downed targets and keeping them all mitigated was kitten impressive. Well done.

Revelstoke.8924:

2) There are several points where you run, unstealthed, through hordes of enemy players and no one even notices you or bothers to attack you. Why?

Anet introduced a new server wide stealth buff to all people in WvWvW..

Anet introduced a new server wide stealth buff to all people in WvWvW..

Whatchu talkin bout, Willis?

Revelstoke.8924:

2) There are several points where you run, unstealthed, through hordes of enemy players and no one even notices you or bothers to attack you. Why?

I will comment more on questions when I am back from work – but this is a confusing part of the video. There are many points where I AM stealthed though my character doesn’t appear so (you have to watch for the stealth buff icon).

This happens often after stealing/shadow stepping/for unknown reasons.

Revelstoke.8924:

Anet introduced a new server wide stealth buff to all people in WvWvW..

Whatchu talkin bout, Willis?

There is currently a large scale rendering bug that when you are running a large zerg you can’t see the other team. Literally you can be fighting a 1v1 and get steam rolled… then the other 30 people will render after you are dead. It has gotten a little better for me lately, but it was really bad last week.. almost unplayable.. you constantly tabbed around looking for a target. The zerg would run around constantly shooting just in case we ran into the enemy team zerg.

Turn.3690:

Revelstoke.8924:

2) There are several points where you run, unstealthed, through hordes of enemy players and no one even notices you or bothers to attack you. Why?

I will comment more on questions when I am back from work – but this is a confusing part of the video. There are many points where I AM stealthed though my character doesn’t appear so (you have to watch for the stealth buff icon).

This happens often after stealing/shadow stepping/for unknown reasons.

This is all due to the rendering bug I mentioned.. same issue with your character rendering the stealth properly.. really annoying too. Especially the part mentioned where you ran through everyone.. they never saw you.. at all. Thieves had it even more OP because the only way around the rendering bug was to tab target, of which it is easy for a thief to clear using stealth. So the moments when you were in stealth but still saw your character normal with the buff was when the rendering was all messed up.

Revelstoke.8924:

Impressive video! Ive exclusively played sPVP so I have yet to touch W3 however some observations…

1) Was that server just….unusually bad or? 9/10 times the dude youre attacking didnt even try to fight back just run away and OFFER his back to you?
2) There are several points where you run, unstealthed, through hordes of enemy players and no one even notices you or bothers to attack you. Why?
3) Apparently one of the benefits of W3 is not everyone has max-tier armor/gems like sPVP. I can’t ever think of a time…ever…whirling axe has summarily crit for over 10k for me against anything in sPVP. Max 5-6 normally. I imagine its just scrubs wearing AH armor.
4) That fight scene with you bouncing between downed targets and keeping them all mitigated was kitten impressive. Well done.

1. That’s WvW for you. A wide range of player types, many of which are casuals that are sub 80.

2. My guess is it’s the rendering bug.

3. Sub 80 players. Even though base stats are uplevelled, the gear stats aren’t. Most players sub 80 have mixmatch gears anyways with stats all over the place. Being lower level items (as they can’t equip 80 items at level 23 in PvE), means they are at ridiculous disadvantages against a level 80 in WvW with his level 80 gears (even if those gears aren’t particularly well chosen)

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Nice vid, Turn. WvW is always fun times.

Having Three Orbs is pretty awesome.

150 to all stats an extra 15% health is a huge difference….

Daecollo.9578:

Having Three Orbs is pretty awesome.

150 to all stats an extra 15% health is a huge difference….

The most I had in the video was 1 (in the first half).

For the second half I had 0 orbs.

The match up is Fort Aspenwood | Tarnished Coast | Blackgate. Blackgate has had 3 orbs for a large duration of the match up. I am from Tarnished Coast.

Make a video fighting black-gate players.

Just tired of “Thief PWN” videos, when your fighting with 3 orbs vs people with 0 in a glass cannon spec.

SHOW US the spec and gears!! I learned a few trick with the video. Thank you!

Great video. Would love some info. Learned some new tricks by watching the vid.

Hello! I really liked your video! It inspires me to try playing with Daggers again! I know what you mean when you say that sometimes you have stealth even if it doesn’t appear. It’s very unusual! Like everyone else, I’d love to see your spec. I’m trying to reverse engineer it in the same way Chakuna is at the moment, but it’d be nice to get some concrete data.

I tried searching for the SB skin, and it’s not an exotic one… DOES ANYONE KNOW!!11? :]

Chakuna.6325:

I tried searching for the SB skin, and it’s not an exotic one… DOES ANYONE KNOW!!11? :]

Kinda looks like Ebon Vanguard Short Bow.. but I didn’t see any gold highlights in the video.

Daecollo.9578:

Make a video fighting black-gate players.

Just tired of “Thief PWN” videos, when your fighting with 3 orbs vs people with 0 in a glass cannon spec.

Green team is Blackgate. The 1v1 vs the Rogue who gets the jump on me is Blackgate, at that time I have 0 orbs and he has 3.

There are two clips where Tarnished Coast has 1 Orb, the rest I have 0. This is clearly seen by looking at my buffs.

Chakuna.6325:

Great video, people are pretty jelly itt. btw I would love to know what gear you’re using. And for the love of god, tell what skin that SB is!111

Thanks for watching. :]

The skin of the bow is Ebon Vanguard Short Bow, the Daggers are the same. Only 9800 Karma too!

Kardis.5132:

Hello! I really liked your video! It inspires me to try playing with Daggers again! I know what you mean when you say that sometimes you have stealth even if it doesn’t appear. It’s very unusual! Like everyone else, I’d love to see your spec. I’m trying to reverse engineer it in the same way Chakuna is at the moment, but it’d be nice to get some concrete data.

Glad to hear you enjoyed the video, and yes the stealth thing is annoying on both ends of the spectrum, I’ve died many times due to using C&D when I thought I wasn’t stealthed.

As for spec, I run:

0 Deadly Arts
30 Critical Strike – III – X – XII (Sometimes swap to VI in place of X)
30 Shadow Arts – V – VI – XI
10 Acrobatics – VI
0 Trickery

For gear, I use a mixture between Berserker/Valkyrie/WvW Set (Power, Tough, Vit), sometimes swapping for more/less Berserker depending on whether or not I need more tankynes.

I’ll be recording much more footage, this was done with ~3 hours of gameplay and I started Sunday evening.

Turn.3690:

I’ll be recording much more footage, this was done with ~3 hours of gameplay and I started Sunday evening.

I’ll be keeping an eye out for the next vid. Thanks for the spec/gear details! =D

Nice video man!

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Sorry, its OK video but 10000000 billion other thief videos its getting old and boring and like in every single video thief basicly spam 1 and 2.

Look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amC903MVhqo&feature=player_embedded

It is not my video but for crying out loud it is so much more fun to watch and person actually use many different skills. Not your fault though, its just class you play is boring to watch.

VictorTroska.3725:

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Sorry, its OK video but 10000000 billion other thief videos its getting old and boring and like in every single video thief basicly spam 1 and 2.

Look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amC903MVhqo&feature=player_embedded

It is not my video but for crying out loud it is so much more fun to watch and person actually use many different skills. Not your fault though, its just class you play is boring to watch.

Actually this isn’t anything like the other 99% of Thief videos on the interwebz, you probably should watch the video first before you post.

Chakuna.6325:

VictorTroska.3725:

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Sorry, its OK video but 10000000 billion other thief videos its getting old and boring and like in every single video thief basicly spam 1 and 2.

Look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amC903MVhqo&feature=player_embedded

It is not my video but for crying out loud it is so much more fun to watch and person actually use many different skills. Not your fault though, its just class you play is boring to watch.

Actually this isn’t anything like the other 99% of Thief videos on the interwebz, you probably should watch the video first before you post.

its 1,1,11,1,1,1,1,1,1,,1,1,5,1,1,1,,1,1,1,1,5

saurus.8290:

Chakuna.6325:

VictorTroska.3725:

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Sorry, its OK video but 10000000 billion other thief videos its getting old and boring and like in every single video thief basicly spam 1 and 2.

Look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amC903MVhqo&feature=player_embedded

It is not my video but for crying out loud it is so much more fun to watch and person actually use many different skills. Not your fault though, its just class you play is boring to watch.

Actually this isn’t anything like the other 99% of Thief videos on the interwebz, you probably should watch the video first before you post.

its 1,1,11,1,1,1,1,1,1,,1,1,5,1,1,1,,1,1,1,1,5

oh hi, another thief-raged lurker decided to post.

@Chakuna. I did watch that video to end. I play on TC myself and I wanted to see if I can find some familiar faces. It is same generic thief video with big damage and 1 2 spam, except this used sometimes 5. But majority of time spamming 1 and 2.

1, 2 spamming pro thief videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRVh4DdghuU&feature=player_embedded
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dkfh1p3UZEU&feature=endscreen&NR=1

and many more. Seen em all.

I wish I could spam 1 & 2 all day, they are my hotkeys for Shadowstep & Shadow Refuge. XD

I use every Thief ability in this video, it is a little frustrating how little we have at our disposal so much skill lies in how we position ourselves and use stealth.

My purpose of making the video is to show there are specs other than the 25/30/Whatever. Also, I wanted to show what happens AFTER a burst combo to differentiate this video from other Thief ones, since they usually just show a quick 1v1 or 1v2 then cut to the next scene (because they are out of cooldowns and probably die).

VictorTroska.3725:

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Sorry, its OK video but 10000000 billion other thief videos its getting old and boring and like in every single video thief basicly spam 1 and 2.

Look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amC903MVhqo&feature=player_embedded

It is not my video but for crying out loud it is so much more fun to watch and person actually use many different skills. Not your fault though, its just class you play is boring to watch.

I’ll admit that it elementalists looks more fun to watch due to the number of skills he’s using. Unfortunately, he’s also spamming those number of skills. The guy goes in, casts aoe spells, realizes his opponents noticed him and attacks him, so he used mist, followed up by defensive spells with healing spells, and repeat. You may think that looks fun to watch, but I’m shaking my head because of what he’s doing.

Lan.1968:

VictorTroska.3725:

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Sorry, its OK video but 10000000 billion other thief videos its getting old and boring and like in every single video thief basicly spam 1 and 2.

Look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amC903MVhqo&feature=player_embedded

It is not my video but for crying out loud it is so much more fun to watch and person actually use many different skills. Not your fault though, its just class you play is boring to watch.

I’ll admit that it elementalists looks more fun to watch due to the number of skills he’s using. Unfortunately, he’s also spamming those number of skills. The guy goes in, casts aoe spells, realizes his opponents noticed him and attacks him, so he used mist, followed up by defensive spells with healing spells, and repeat. You may think that looks fun to watch, but I’m shaking my head because of what he’s doing.

I am aware of that but like you said, its more entertaining. I have nothing against Turn and his video. It was good, maybe I judge too harsh. But there is so many of similar videos, so, so many. Unless you play exceptionally great or fight against skilled opponents, video just wont stand out.

erm that “Ele” is actually in my guild and he displays great skills whether it’s sPVP, dueling, PVE, or WVWing with the guild (At the time, that was his new build). He did make few petty mistakes during that video though, where Turn was just brilliant with and in sync with his thief. I have respect for both vids, but if you really thing the elementalist video was garbage then i invite you to go to the Ele topic and state that it’s trash and why.

You weren’t getting stunned/dazed/immobilised/knocked-down/etc. nearly enough when fighting against groups of 3 or more by yourself. Also a bunch of them aren’t level 80, which pretty much just means an insta-kill for you regardless of what build you go.

Other than that, you’re using the stealth skills amazingly (Its a shame that invis is horribly broken atm for wvwvw at least), and you just don’t mash f (or whatever it is for you) after you down someone.

If a thief ever looked like he/she knew what they were doing, it’d be you.

That low ping you have there makes so much of a difference, right now from Australia (300-500 ping if not higher – extremely noticeable delays), for me i can’t just simply stand behind them, i need to be inside them before i start hitting people with my thief. MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS (Heartseeker) 2000 MISS MISS MISS etc.

Blackout.3247:

You weren’t getting stunned/dazed/immobilised/knocked-down/etc. nearly enough when fighting against groups of 3 or more by yourself. Also a bunch of them aren’t level 80, which pretty much just means an insta-kill for you regardless of what build you go.

Other than that, you’re using the stealth skills amazingly (Its a shame that invis is horribly broken atm for wvwvw at least), and you just don’t mash f (or whatever it is for you) after you down someone.

If a thief ever looked like he/she knew what they were doing, it’d be you.

That low ping you have there makes so much of a difference, right now from Australia (300-500 ping if not higher – extremely noticeable delays), for me i can’t just simply stand behind them, i need to be inside them before i start hitting people with my thief. MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS MISS (Heartseeker) 2000 MISS MISS MISS etc.

For CC avoidance, the trait “Cloaked in Shadows” works amazingly well, especially when coupled with heavy use of Cloak & Dagger.

Unfortunately there is no way to avoid low level players in WvW. For the next video that I have begun working on I will have a much larger pool of footage to display fights vs. more level 80 opponents.

Thanks for watching and thanks for the response, I feel for you having 300-500 ping. I can imagine that being a nightmare for landing positional attacks.

Chakuna.6325:

bladie.5084:

erm that “Ele” is actually in my guild and he displays great skills whether it’s sPVP, dueling, PVE, or WVWing with the guild (At the time, that was his new build). He did make few petty mistakes during that video though, where Turn was just brilliant with and in sync with his thief. I have respect for both vids, but if you really thing the elementalist video was garbage then i invite you to go to the Ele topic and state that it’s trash and why.

You have to kidding right? He killed 5 people in 8 minutes, and NONE, I repeat, none of them were level 80 (lol that ele he killed was like level 10). I don’t mean to sound like an kitten but you’re clueless.

I don’t mean to sound like a kitten but you’re the one who’s clueless. It’s like, me giving you an essay paper and telling you to find the thesis statement but you’re like, “Huh? How many oranges are there in an essay?” Learn some fkn respect, kid.

Chakuna.6325:

lol didn’t read.

lol exactly

dude, you think that elementealist video shows skill, your argument is invalid for anything pvp related.

btw i’m deleting my posts, it’s derailing this thread.

bladie.5084:

I don’t mean to sound like a kitten but you’re the one who’s clueless. It’s like, me giving you an essay paper and telling you to find the thesis statement but you’re like, “Huh? How many oranges are there in an essay?” Learn some fkn respect, kid.

Ya, just gonna chime in here and say that most of your victims prolly didn’t know you were there.

Sorry, but this is a prime exmple of why people think thief is OP. First, you never see it coming, by the time you do, ur on the ground. Cannot WAIT for that bug to be fixed.

Wish I could do that kind of damage. sigh