Guild Wars 2

Shiki.7148:

Cynz.9437:

Shiki.7148:

There are way more things that remove chill which Reaper is supposed to utilize to be sticky than there is to stealth, and stealth is a way more “broken” mechanic.

Also OP you got it wrong: getting bursted out of nowhere or guys pressing one button to disengage any fight is the problem, giving out reveals is the counterplay to THAT, and definitly needed. There isn’t nearly as much revealing as you make it out to be, and almost all of it is on situational skills not everybody might use. Heck, some forms are depending on which traitlines they take.

Plays an engi…. what a surprise. You don’t get bursted out of nowhere unless you never look at map or unable to use interrupts. One button to disengage? Okkkkk
Ok, let’s assume counterplay to stealth is needed, WHY CAN’T WE HAVE COUNTERPLAY TO ENGI SKILLS THEN? I am sure there should be just as much counterplay that locks out their entire trait line just to be fair. Why should thieves be only class being completely locked out of defensive (and offensive) abilities? I think it is time other classes get same threatment like thieves!

And you massively failed. I do not even have an Engi created, I play Necro and nothing else. Too bad you just wasted your credibility, huh?

Nope, you actually just lost ALL you credibility by saying you “play Necro and nothing else”… lmao
How can you think you can actually give any advice or your opinion being important, when you NOT EVEN PLAY ANOTHER CLASS. Not even created it. How can you say something about balance without enough background information and experience.
I just don’t get it, sry.

Kocoff.7582:

Wow…. wait up. the Stealth drone lasts 30 seconds and the CD is 30 seconds… The Stealth boon lasts 4 seconds and the interval of application is 3 seconds.

That means in WvW, the Scrapper will be rocking permanent stealth to them and 5 person.

That’s more stealth than a Thief could ever dream of. Permanent stealth roaming?
If you don’t see a flying little gyro miles away you are already dead.

Its like having invisible Apache-helicopters. Guild wars 2 attack of drones. The drone-wars. Was it CoD black ops 2 or 3?

Kocoff.7582:

Wow…. wait up. the Stealth drone lasts 30 seconds and the CD is 30 seconds… The Stealth boon lasts 4 seconds and the interval of application is 3 seconds.

That means in WvW, the Scrapper will be rocking permanent stealth to them and 5 person.

That’s more stealth than a Thief could ever dream of. Permanent stealth roaming?
If you don’t see a flying little gyro miles away you are already dead.

Source?

Kocoff.7582:

Wow…. wait up. the Stealth drone lasts 30 seconds and the CD is 30 seconds… The Stealth boon lasts 4 seconds and the interval of application is 3 seconds.

That means in WvW, the Scrapper will be rocking permanent stealth to them and 5 person.

That’s more stealth than a Thief could ever dream of. Permanent stealth roaming?
If you don’t see a flying little gyro miles away you are already dead.

Nice…I guess I’ll start tagging along with an Engineer and let them stealth me instead of me bringing my own stealth skills. It’s gonna be a heck of a combo — 4 DDs and a Scapper. 24/7 KDs, lol.

I really question the competency of the Dev who make these kinds of decisions in profession design. This skill is outright stupid — nevermind the reveal skill.

The CD doesn’t start until the Gyro is finished or you detonate it. So no, it’s not permanent. Not even close.

It’s hilariously awful.

Cynz.9437:

at this point i think all thieves should gather and write letter to Anet with complains about discrimination from dev team

You’re on it.
The Thief forum is one long, endless report of all the reasons we’re miserable and hated.

This sucks.

Thief balancing is trying too hard not to step on the toes of the other class mains, meanwhile we have them walking all over us with mechanics that leave us defenseless.

And then when you try to suggest sustain just to live, an influx of players flood the topic howling that thief is fine.

Whatever.

I can easily not play.

/The saltiest

I was just thinking: given all the nerfs to thieves and all revealed/anti stealth mechanics handled to other classes, doesn’t it mean that devs want thief to be unplayable? Isn’t it direct attempt to prevent thief players from taking part in tournaments? Shouldn’t we able to report this somehow?

Cynz.9437:

I was just thinking: given all the nerfs to thieves and all revealed/anti stealth mechanics handled to other classes, doesn’t it mean that devs want thief to be unplayable? Isn’t it direct attempt to prevent thief players from taking part in tournaments? Shouldn’t we able to report this somehow?

You can still roll soldier double SB and pure map mobility/initiative gain sets ups just ignore all combats traits,utilities and gear. I have a feeling eventually this will happen.

“He who knows his name” is not flexible in discussions either.

Cynz.9437:

I was just thinking: given all the nerfs to thieves and all revealed/anti stealth mechanics handled to other classes, doesn’t it mean that devs want thief to be unplayable? Isn’t it direct attempt to prevent thief players from taking part in tournaments? Shouldn’t we able to report this somehow?

What are you trying to do, exactly? Complain to the police that the game devs are being unfair?
Don’t expect the investors to give a kitten either.

Slowmelt.8547:

Cynz.9437:

I was just thinking: given all the nerfs to thieves and all revealed/anti stealth mechanics handled to other classes, doesn’t it mean that devs want thief to be unplayable? Isn’t it direct attempt to prevent thief players from taking part in tournaments? Shouldn’t we able to report this somehow?

What are you trying to do, exactly? Complain to the police that the game devs are being unfair?
Don’t expect the investors to give a kitten either.

idk about anet but i used to play other games and devs weren’t allowed to favor certain group of players (there were some and they got rid off pretty quickly)…. which anet devs are doing right now

Sir Vincent III.1286:

That was actually the idea behind my Arcane Thief Elite Spec suggestion — it would have been better for the Thief to arcane steal abilities using focus than to be a staff wielding monkey.

Whatever, too late for that — maybe the next Elite Spec (if any)?

yeah im not sure who the theif dev is.. but … not good