Guild Wars 2

I main an Engineer. Love it. Absolutely love it. But at times, I just want something different, a low level relaxed toon. So, I’m looking for an alt but can’t decide on a profession. I’ve tried many at lower levels but nothing is grabbing me. I need something that’s got build variety, that can deal damage but have utility too. Something fun and dynamic. Something with pizazz. Also, I’m 99% PvE

99% PvE and want to play Thief ? Thief is horrible PvE class.

hi Seras, thief is a fun class to play in both pve and pvp…there is some build variety and certain weapons play very different from others. Overall the playstle doesn’t change drastically from low levels to higher levels, but as you get skilled, you do notice nuances that open up new options. I’d give the different weapon combos a try in the low levels, and if you get bored quick, it may not be for you.

considering the things you mentioned; variety and support, you may want to give mesmer a try as well (though they don’t get good in pve till lvl 40). good luck!

@Evilek – ok, sums that up for me. I kinda had a feeling.

@bobross – yea, I actually posted this same thread in mesmer forum too. looks like the general concensus is “go mesmer”.

thief is not bad in pve…see the thread ‘thief and dungeon balancing’ from today. it also offers some interesting support options, and can work well in a pve group or solo.

bobross.5034:

thief is not bad in pve…see the thread ‘thief and dungeon balancing’ from today. it also offers some interesting support options, and can work well in a pve group or solo.

I play with full defensive utilities,18k HP and 2.7k armor and barely survive in dungeons.
With full berserker gear is imposible play dungeons.

Other class with full berserker gear and traits farm all dungeons.

If you want to play some kind of single target glass cannon that relies on stealth and extreme uses of your resources to kill a single target in a spectacular manner, then you’re going to have trouble in PvE. So many people play Thief in PvP, but then run into a lot of trouble when their PvP builds get crushed in a PvE environment.

PvE Thief builds are completely viable, but the class will play differently from a person’s PvP expectations.

Evilek.5690:

I play with full defensive utilities,18k HP and 2.7k armor and barely survive in dungeons.
With full berserker gear is imposible play dungeons.

Other class with full berserker gear and traits farm all dungeons.

You’re doing something horribly wrong… I used my thief in dungeons when he was lvl 75, with kittenty gear, and a terrible build (for dungeons) without sword and I did decently enough.

That said, OP if you’re almost entirely PvE then it’s practically mandatory to try one of the “holy three” of PvE: Mesmer, Guardian and Warrior. Warrior is, by far, the easiest thing to level and PvE with in the world. Mesmer and Guardian will give you a bit more variety and are also quite easy to play. Out of the tree, Mesmer is probably the hardest to level (which still isn’t very hard) as it is the most build-dependent.

ProxyDamage.9826:

Evilek.5690:

I play with full defensive utilities,18k HP and 2.7k armor and barely survive in dungeons.
With full berserker gear is imposible play dungeons.

Other class with full berserker gear and traits farm all dungeons.

You’re doing something horribly wrong… I used my thief in dungeons when he was lvl 75, with kittenty gear, and a terrible build (for dungeons) without sword and I did decently enough.

That said, OP if you’re almost entirely PvE then it’s practically mandatory to try one of the “holy three” of PvE: Mesmer, Guardian and Warrior. Warrior is, by far, the easiest thing to level and PvE with in the world. Mesmer and Guardian will give you a bit more variety and are also quite easy to play. Out of the tree, Mesmer is probably the hardest to level (which still isn’t very hard) as it is the most build-dependent.

I’m not dying in dungeons, I’m just saying it frustrating that I must to go to full tank build and others class can play with berserker gear and traits.

Thief has low HP and low armor.

Evilek.5690:

bobross.5034:

thief is not bad in pve…see the thread ‘thief and dungeon balancing’ from today. it also offers some interesting support options, and can work well in a pve group or solo.

I play with full defensive utilities,18k HP and 2.7k armor and barely survive in dungeons.
With full berserker gear is imposible play dungeons.

Other class with full berserker gear and traits farm all dungeons.

Evilek.5690:

I’m not dying in dungeons, I’m just saying it frustrating that I must to go to full tank build and others class can play with berserker gear and traits.

Thief has low HP and low armor.

Your words, not mine. You’re having issues surviving with a full bunker build, and it is, according to you, impossible to survive with full berserker. To which I say – you’re doing it wrong. Very, very wrong.

Evilek.5690:

bobross.5034:

thief is not bad in pve…see the thread ‘thief and dungeon balancing’ from today. it also offers some interesting support options, and can work well in a pve group or solo.

I play with full defensive utilities,18k HP and 2.7k armor and barely survive in dungeons.
With full berserker gear is imposible play dungeons.

Other class with full berserker gear and traits farm all dungeons.

I really wonder where do u people get this conclusions. i have built myself a full condition thief which i played in my way to level 80 and a bit also at level 80 content. later on i wanted to give wvw a try with my thif roam a bit etc, and i came to the conclusion thief doesnt have many viable build right now and so i decided to run a full zerk thief traited with 25/30/0/5/15. my gear is full zerk and i use runes of scholar. either u are a pretty bad thief or i dunno whats happening. i recently got my dungeon master title and i runned all the dungeons in the game with my zerker thief. either i am to good or u cant play your thief. i have absolutly no problems with full zerker gear , cause i think i at least understand a bit of positioning and safety. its piece of cake considering i dont consider any of this ggame dungeons hard at all. and remember i only have 13k hp. the only time i consider putthing a bit of defense in my thief build/gear is in fractals and just some of the fractals. and my only change is the rings and acessories. i usually swap to my ascended crit/power/ though earings/rings when i need a bit more of survability in some fractal.sometimes i also change it in cof p1 for the part where we need to open the gate, sometimes i need a bit of sustain dealing with the chars appearing, and since i cant get out of the aura to open the gate i need a bit of sustain. those are the only time where i put a bit of thoughnss or hp on my thief in pve and i have absolute no problem at all. probably ur complaining but ur like some ppl ive seen with full energy staying inside red circles getting hit by aoes…so please dont spread false rumours that thief cant run dungeons in full zerk.

@OP: May I suggest trying an elementalist? With the attunements, variety of weapons, amazing utilities and the absolutely funny conjured weapons, you might be in for the blast you were looking for. The thief is not very varied, but may be a challenge you’re after.

To Sata.9281
Next time when you go dungeon please make a video.
I’m really curious about your performance: D

With full berserker gear and trait is thief sentenced to use the bow or pistil no melee weapons

Evilek.5690:

Next time when you go dungeon please make a video.
I’m really curious about your performance: D

With full berserker gear and trait is thief sentenced to use the bow or pistil no melee weapons

Remind me of this in a few months and sure. I’m currently on a laptop that barely runs the game at 40/50 FPS. Running any recording program on top of it would kill it.

You don’t alt a thief; you main one. What’s pve? You’ll have the most enjoyment playing a thief when your in spvp or wvw.

Zerk melee thieves are viable in dungeons and fractals. The most important thing is knowledge of the encounter.
Thieves don’t rely on hp and armor for survival, they are an active defense class. But with barely 13k hp, only a small mistake will get them downed. It’s all about practice.

To the OP, the thief can be extremely relaxing or boring to lvl if you go S/P. Just use Black Powder and auto ftw.

@OP the Thief can excel at PvE. It’s just there are a lot of Thieves that try to go sneaky backstabers in Dungeons where the rules are way different. That population of players create the impression that the Thief is horrible in PvE so the word spreads.

I can tell you that the Thief can do perfectly fine in PvE. It may not be the best profession, some professions are OP there, but you can have a lot of success with a Thief.

Evilek.5690:

99% PvE and want to play Thief ? Thief is horrible PvE class.

What build/playstyle do you use? I’ve always had tons of success with my support oriented main Thief and I’m usually the one reviving teamates instead of dying. Not to mention 100% Map Completion with a Thief is easy mode as you can get all those skill points protected by champions in Orr with a Shadow Refuge so a Thief is a good choice for Gifts of Exploration.

Thief is very underrated at support and I would rank him as one of the bests in the game at that role.

A Thief walking into red circles to backstab mobs won’t survive in PvE unless his timing is perfect but there are many ways to excel at PvE as a Thief without getting yourself killed all the time.

If you’re having a bad time with any build you try, at least you can always switch to Shortbow, start triggering combo fields (best finisher in the whole game) and if you got at least 15 points in DA (many efficent builds have it) apply Weakness permanently to all enemies in the figth (Weakness is very underrated and helps a huge lot). This way you don’t have to worry too much about surviving as you don’t need to cross enemy lines.