Guild Wars 2

The damage reduction on daredevil weakening charge and in dash are a start.. But not all thief’s want to play daredevil. I suggest buffing shadow arts line to have a trait that gives damage reduction while under the effects of reveal, and for acrobatics to have some form of damage reduction when we are missing 50% of our endurance or more. Every class is getting more powerful allong with a multitude of defenses. It os becoming very difficult to keep up. I think these changes would bring allot of viability back to other thief builds. Discuss.

SA is just fine how it is. It’s the best defense trait line we currently have, and Resilience of Shadows is great (25% reduced damage while stealth). Now if we can just get some more defense outside of stealth through other trait lines.

It used to be 50% reduced damage in stealth… but they rolled it up into other trait and reduced it.

Why should revealed give damage reduction? I don’t think you’ve thought this through at all… c/d, backstab instantly, slash slash, heart seeker heart seeker (i’m safe from damage, it’s 50% less effective so just tank it out) until revealed gone, c/d and backstab instantly again…

May as well just ask for revealed to double your health bar.

IMO it’s an awful suggestion. If d/p is the “only viable build” at present, your suggestion is exponentially making it stronger too and therefore keeps it the strongest/best build.

How about dancing dagger applies blind as well as cripple for a ranged blind – to help dagger offhand builds? I’d rather have it on c/d but you can trait for it.

Chips.7968:

It used to be 50% reduced damage in stealth… but they rolled it up into other trait and reduced it.

Why should revealed give damage reduction? I don’t think you’ve thought this through at all… c/d, backstab instantly, slash slash, heart seeker heart seeker (i’m safe from damage, it’s 50% less effective so just tank it out) until revealed gone, c/d and backstab instantly again…

May as well just ask for revealed to double your health bar.

IMO it’s an awful suggestion. If d/p is the “only viable build” at present, your suggestion is exponentially making it stronger too and therefore keeps it the strongest/best build.

How about dancing dagger applies blind as well as cripple for a ranged blind – to help dagger offhand builds? I’d rather have it on c/d but you can trait for it.

He never said 50% reduction while revealed. That would clearly be over the top. I’d go for 10% reduction, some endurance regen, and initiative regen when revealed. CnD should blind and SA should get a new GM for the reveal buff. Put the 50% fall damage on the deception cooldown adept in place of smoke screen on down.

Luto.1938:

SA is just fine how it is. It’s the best defense trait line we currently have, and Resilience of Shadows is great (25% reduced damage while stealth). Now if we can just get some more defense outside of stealth through other trait lines.

SE is not fine, neither is CiS as GM gutting OH dagger, Concealed Defeat is not fine with the down trait and having to compete with SE. RS is trash because incoming damage while stealthed was an always a problem we complained about.

I have gone the Trappers route for survival on my power build. It is surprisingly effective as it sheds conditions quickly and has plenty of on demand stealth. The damage output is reduced but so far this is the only thief build I have found that can dish out direct damage AND be relatively tough to kill.

Chips.7968:

It used to be 50% reduced damage in stealth… but they rolled it up into other trait and reduced it.

It also wasn’t a minor trait we get for free. Nobody was able to take Resilience of Shadow before the 23rd June patch.
Can’t remember if it was a Master or GrandMaster, but it had huge competition.