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Posted by: Rusha.4725

Rusha.4725

Yea I’m a glass cannon. Actually I’m another thief here as a victim. So?
Some people play tanky some go glass cannon. As a glass cannon i rely on dmg avoidence with a little mitigation. I have stealth, shadowstep, blind, traps etc to avoid dmg. So if I’m good at playing my glass cannon i should be able to do it with minimal dmg mitigation. But you cannnot mitigate and avoid that kind of attack in the screen. Combine it with quickness and consider the whole three hits(which is completed under 1 sec because of quickness) came from stealth. If he comes with immobilizing venom you cannot even dodge so your only option is break which you must decide under 1 sec.

Skip good play or bad play, is it normal for someone to deal 22k dmg under 1 sec before even you can see him? I played like this guy for a while and I have to say this is completly inbalanced. I can clearly say, when I pick a fragile target he is dead no matter what with this dudes build. The problem is surviving from other people later which is pretty much easy though.

Maybe the thread owner could avoid the S/P rouge. But there are times you really can’t do kitten.

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Posted by: Ansatsu.2678

Ansatsu.2678

Just another baddie. move along

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Posted by: Catalyst.8075

Catalyst.8075

Guys, stop entertaining this. You and your friends are idiots for being so close. Do you stand in AE too? Stay mobile, its one of the easiest abilities to prevent.

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Posted by: Hyde.6189

Hyde.6189

3) Stop saying kitten every other sentence. In a few months when the cool kids have moved on to another fotm phrase, you’ll look back and feel stupid.

That’s how the forums censors all swear-words, youkitten

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Posted by: Rika.7249

Rika.7249

3) Stop saying kitten every other sentence. In a few months when the cool kids have moved on to another fotm phrase, you’ll look back and feel stupid.

That’s how the forums censors all swear-words, youkitten

And it’s thekittenkitten best way to kitten censor kitten swear words!

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Posted by: Erbun.3564

Erbun.3564

Eventually other classes will learn to stop being glass cannons when thieves are around.

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Posted by: Bazeleel.8219

Bazeleel.8219

Warriors 100 blades do even more damage…..

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Posted by: DrakeWurrum.6049

DrakeWurrum.6049

Did you even try to use a stun breaker? O_o

Do you even get any Vitality or Toughness? Any ways to apply Vigor to yourself? Or maybe gain Protection?

On top of that, the skill only stuns for half a second. Not joking, that’s the exact stun duration. The only way he could get in 9 slashes in that half second is if he’s also popped Haste, which means he now can’t dodge.

I hope you haven’t forgotten my role in this little story. I’m the leading man.
You know what they say about the leading man? He never dies.

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Posted by: Garlic Sensei.4103

Garlic Sensei.4103

oh shhhh***ttttt warrior killed me in 0.1 sec OP!! nerfz???

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Posted by: Redscope.6215

Redscope.6215

Judging by the fact that nearly all thieves that use Pistol Whip extensively have all logged on to say that they’re skilled players for spamming one skill and winning fights, I’d say its time for another Heartseeker nerf…I mean…Pistol Whip nerf.

No skill that does this should ever stun. Especially not one from a stealth class.

Just sayin.

Anyway gg PW thieves…

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Posted by: bwillb.2165

bwillb.2165

Judging by the fact that nearly all thieves that use Pistol Whip extensively have all logged on to say that they’re skilled players for spamming one skill and winning fights, I’d say its time for another Heartseeker nerf…I mean…Pistol Whip nerf.

No skill that does this should ever stun. Especially not one from a stealth class.

Just sayin.

Anyway gg PW thieves…

Again, spamming abilities, while not indicative of a good player, is only useful against other bad players. Good thieves vary it up a bit, and good players can easily shut down ability spammers. Pistol-whip doesn’t need any sort of nerf, people just need to learn how it works and how to counter it, and then the skill is worthless. The only time pistol whip is even close to OP is when combined with haste. And that’s not something that needs a pistol whip nerf, it’s something that may need a game-wide nerf to the quickness effect. To begin with, it should be made into a boon rather than an unremovable buff. Second, it could stand to be 66% faster instead of 100% faster. This is for ALL quickness, mind you, not just Haste.

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Posted by: Kabuki.9103

Kabuki.9103

ofc thieves are not op

all this dmg in less than 2 seconds and run away from 20 ppl

would kill me in less than a sec but i dodge roll 2 times and lighting reflex

You fought a thief. He pulled off 6 moves and you pulled off 7 moves.

Him with dagger:
1) Steal
2) Cloak and Dagger
3) Dancing Dagger
4) Dancing Dagger
4.5) Swapped weapon to shortbow
5) Trick shot (lucky to trigger a lightning sigil for 1,658)
6) Trick shot

Your moves:
1) Dodge (no endurance)
2) Dodge (no endurance)
3) Dodge (no endurance)
4) Dodge (no endurance)
5) Dodge (no endurance, you know you need endurance to dodge right?)
6) Dodge (hope you’re not standing still while you’re still trying to dodge with no endurance)
7) Crossfire

Against someone of your skill level, I can take you down in Moa form. Will you then say that Moa form is op?

EDIT: add original screenshot posted
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/7444/gw021.jpg

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Posted by: Vexus.5423

Vexus.5423

ofc thieves are not op

all this dmg in less than 2 seconds and run away from 20 ppl

would kill me in less than a sec but i dodge roll 2 times and lighting reflex

You fought a thief. He pulled off 6 moves and you pulled off 7 moves.

Him with dagger:
1) Steal
2) Cloak and Dagger
3) Dancing Dagger
4) Dancing Dagger
4.5) Swapped weapon to shortbow
5) Trick shot (lucky to trigger a lightning sigil for 1,658)
6) Trick shot

Your moves:
1) Dodge (no endurance)
2) Dodge (no endurance)
3) Dodge (no endurance)
4) Dodge (no endurance)
5) Dodge (no endurance, you know you need endurance to dodge right?)
6) Dodge (hope you’re not standing still while you’re still trying to dodge with no endurance)
7) Crossfire

Against someone of your skill level, I can take you down in Moa form. Will you then say that Moa form is op?

EDIT: add original screenshot posted
https://dviw3bl0enbyw.cloudfront.net/uploads/forum_attachment/file/7444/gw021.jpg

Hahaha… so awesome.

Combat logs tell no lies!

“Why am I not constantly dodging!!!!”

Don’t ele’s have a mist form, a fast lightning teleport, a lot of powerful AOE to throw on the ground, some shields – one of which reflects projectiles, and some other stuff I dunno about except it hurts?

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Posted by: Kasama.8941

Kasama.8941

3) Stop saying kitten every other sentence. In a few months when the cool kids have moved on to another fotm phrase, you’ll look back and feel stupid.

You realize that the forum filter switches any bad words to “kitten” right???

Maybe you can “look back and feel stupid”

the only one who should feel stupid is you musty.3148, you offer your opinion in places where no one cares what you have to say. why don’t you quit the game and save us all from your diatribe.

You do realize that you just answered a 6 month old comment, yes?

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Posted by: Dasorine.1964

Dasorine.1964

holy necro batman!

Just to stalk someone… many necromancers really are creepy :P

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