Guild Wars 2

To specify(explaining the skill), the ‘Signet of Malice’ is a heal skill for the thief which grants health for every attack as a passive ability. The active ability gives greater health boost.
Question here… Let’s suppose Im wearing armor that upgrades ‘Healing abilities’ like for example Healing stat+ (x). Does that actually work with Signet of Malice?

Its not the best approach for a thief of course, I am just curious to see if someone actually tried it. Every attack gives you health; does it give more health per attack when your equipped with armor/weapons that boosts healing stat?
If it works, it makes for a more survivability thief lol

It does work, but to what extent I couldn’t says.

Easiest way to find out? Go to the mists, grab signet of malice, grab a Steady Weapon from the vendor, go beat on a dummy. Switch gear out to +HP gear. Beat on dummy again.

You get a small fraction of healing power.

I’m not able to check right now, but running a Shamans amutet (569 healing power, diff jewel with no healing power) and 30 points in shadow arts (another 300) for a total 869, I believe I get somewhere around 140 per hit.

You get 5% of your Healing Power for the “On Hit” heal.

So as an example:
@ level 80 with NO Healing Power you get ~100 health per hit.

@ level 80 with 1000 Healing Power you get ~150 Health per hit.

1000*.05=50

Yes it works; ull get a increase both in the passive healing and active healing.
The passive healing gives you 100 hp for each attack at base compassion and increases 1 point for each 20 points of extra compassion (+healing); the active healing gives you 3275 hp, and increases 1point for each 2 points in compassion.

Supposedly, according to the wiki (http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Signet_of_Malice)

You get 100 + 20% of your healing power above base as health pet attack.

20% of 869 = 43 (rounded closer) which would make 143 health per attack.

20% of 869 is 173.8, this would mean you would heal for 273.8 per hit, which would be great … if it were true.

The actual value is 5% of your total Healing Power.

The link you posted even states that the value is 5%, I am confused as to why you say 20%.

As Kindread said, you get +5% of healing power to the passive effect per hit, with base 100. The active use of the signet isn’t modified by healing power though.

As for the other 2 healing skills, Hide in Shadows gets a 100% bonus to its heal from heal. power (so with 1000 heal. power you heal 5240+1000), while Withdraw gets 50% from heal. power.

Running a bleed spec with Signet of Malice is quite entertaining, especially in 8v8 hot joins and in WWW, boosting your healing power/cnd dmg/thoughness, and choosing the right traits: it’s nice to see your hp pool going from squat to full when you trigger Dagger Storm.

Kindread.9481:

20% of 869 is 173.8, this would mean you would heal for 273.8 per hit, which would be great … if it were true.

The actual value is 5% of your total Healing Power.

The link you posted even states that the value is 5%, I am confused as to why you say 20%.

Well my fault, it says 5% of your healing power right now, I was obviously thinking of healing power divided by 20 when I wrote that line I even did the math like that you can see.

Thx for the info guys!
Much appreciated

If you’re looking to make the most of SoM, make sure you a.) boost your compassion, and b.) use S/P as Pistol Whip against multiple mobs = tons of returned health, and c.) throw a lot of Caltrops.

^ works well with p/p too. I usually run malice, and unload is a good heal supplement. You also get the multi hit healing from the stealthed attack but need condition stats to make it ideal.

DAgger storm + SoM again zerg = many lulz

Don’t know if it was cuz of the last patch, but I have 0 healing, yet my SoM returns 107 hp per hit on lv 80 maps. Not that I’m complaining about this 7% boost.

You probably got some healing from trait line?

Nope, I am holding my mouse over “Health” in the Hero’s window right now..it says “Healing Power: 0.” If I did, it should be a number other than zero. Besides, I have nothing invested in Shadow Arts.

Oh nvm. It’s the WvW bonus, “Medic.” It increases healing effectiveness by 7%. Haha