Guild Wars 2

i see this in another topic and i think is a good idea:

Thief:
->Shadow refuge: Add protection on activation and pulse blindness on shadow refuge (1 second pulse) increase healing to 3000.
->Pistol skill headshot: add knockdown duration 1 second

why add protection and pulse blindness: i think more than protection i’ll add stability, there is a thing that is bothering me a lot the past few day’s, almost every class can take you out of refuge, the pet of rangers can give you fear even if you are already inv cuz for a few seconds they can follow you (i think thats need to be fixed), shadow refuge is one of our best healing and protection skill… the other classe’s have tons of invulnerability skills well.. SR should be our invulnerability skill (i’m not saying that we dont take damage on it, but at least let give just protection or stability to hold a bit more…

add knockdown to headshot i think is a good idea as well, headshot it’s not a skill that we use often cuz it take a lot of initiative, so it’s not a spam skill its a skill that we use when we see someone is going to heal or to stop a kill.

No.

Knockdowns on instant cast are whinebait.

Blindness in shadow refuge is melee spec whinebait.

Thief should be harder because stealth or something.

Go home kid.
/15 charr

better heals or protection on shadow refuge doesn’t seem too broken, but honestly SR doesn’t need help. It’s fine the way it is. Blindness would be stupidly overpowered. The entire counter to SR is knocking the thief out of it by attacking almost at random. Adding blindness would completely prevent melee fighters from countering.

Knockdowns on headshot would be overpowered to the point they’d practically have to double the init cost just to balance it. I’d rather have the current lower cost version so I can have ready interrupts if I manage my init well.

Shadow refuge: Add protection on activation and pulse blindness on shadow refuge (1 second pulse) increase healing to 3000.

In all honestly, It’s not SR that is the problem. It’s all this new or buffed AoE damage. Your SR is basically worthless because unless you can run far away enough that people won’t chase you. They can kill you in SR with AoE outright, there is a reason in WoW and other MMOs that AoE does significantly less damage to players than to mobs.

dkayl.6509:

i see this in another topic and i think is a good idea:

Thief:
->Shadow refuge: Add protection on activation and pulse blindness on shadow refuge (1 second pulse) increase healing to 3000.
->Pistol skill headshot: add knockdown duration 1 second

Protection and pulse blindness? lolnope. That would be ridiculous to be honest. All SR needs is the addition of stability for the duration of the field… That is literally all I’d change with it.

As for KD with headshot? Again lolnope… I’ts fine as it is.

Hitsuke.5304:

dkayl.6509:

i see this in another topic and i think is a good idea:

Thief:
->Shadow refuge: Add protection on activation and pulse blindness on shadow refuge (1 second pulse) increase healing to 3000.
->Pistol skill headshot: add knockdown duration 1 second

Protection and pulse blindness? lolnope. That would be ridiculous to be honest. All SR needs is the addition of stability for the duration of the field… That is literally all I’d change with it.

As for KD with headshot? Again lolnope… I’ts fine as it is.

stability is nonsense, and worse than pulse blindness because now even the ranged knockbacks wont work.

Considering how Devs buffed every other class, we should even ask for more. It won’t ever happen but why should we only ask for reasonable things?

Kolly.9872:

why should we only ask for reasonable things?

because whinebait.

Ask for buffs, receive nerfs. Lets beg for more nerfs, maybe we’ll get buffs?

Kolly.9872:

Considering how Devs buffed every other class, we should even ask for more. It won’t ever happen but why should we only ask for reasonable things?

Asking for reasonable buffs is more likely to be taken seriously than asking for a string of completely broken and overpowered ones.

Still, I mean, we had to ask for a really long time to get reasonable stuff like evade buffs on deathblossom or not-quite-a-fix for p/p

Serious Thought.5394:

Ask for buffs, receive nerfs. Lets beg for more nerfs, maybe we’ll get buffs?

Now someone’s on the train to smartville.

Shadow Refuge can already do sort of what you are asking with traits in Shadow Arts. Besides the stronger thief builds running right now don’t have SR on their bar and many don’t even use stealth.

The main things I want:
Shadows Embrace to be a cure all back, yeah it cures damaging conditions but HiS cures three already so SE was an awesome condi cleanse for us. Besides in PvP I find my self dying to immobilize second most of the time, condition wise.

Acro tree to be fixed but every thief wants this, though with daredevil it’s almost useless as a tree so they could revamp it(?)

More defensive options period or ways to bypass defense. We cannot duel in traditional PvP setting for a couple of reasons: the other may be too defensive and able to get out just as much if not more damage than the thief, or if you are winning, that fight probably took a couple of minutes in which case the other team already capped all points and you were negatively stalling GG. Have a trait where we do more damage per boon on target. If opponent is blocking, deal damage as normal if hitting from behind or the side.

Said it once I’ll say it again, Shiro Tagachi on Revenant was what thief should have been

PopeUrban.2578:

Kolly.9872:

Considering how Devs buffed every other class, we should even ask for more. It won’t ever happen but why should we only ask for reasonable things?

Asking for reasonable buffs is more likely to be taken seriously than asking for a string of completely broken and overpowered ones.

Still, I mean, we had to ask for a really long time to get reasonable stuff like evade buffs on deathblossom or not-quite-a-fix for p/p

playing since beta I’ve never seen a small buff to thieves coming without a huge nerf to something else. Also I’ve never seen buffs to thieves staying untouched for more than 4 months. I’ve seen instead some clearly broken things (aka withdrow healing) not working as intended (as written on patch notes) and still not fixed after 2 big balance patch. On the other hand things like improvisation not working with new skills, being fixed in 2 days.

Kolly.9872:

PopeUrban.2578:

Kolly.9872:

Considering how Devs buffed every other class, we should even ask for more. It won’t ever happen but why should we only ask for reasonable things?

Asking for reasonable buffs is more likely to be taken seriously than asking for a string of completely broken and overpowered ones.

Still, I mean, we had to ask for a really long time to get reasonable stuff like evade buffs on deathblossom or not-quite-a-fix for p/p

playing since beta I’ve never seen a small buff to thieves coming without a huge nerf to something else. Also I’ve never seen buffs to thieves staying untouched for more than 4 months. I’ve seen instead some clearly broken things (aka withdrow healing) not working as intended (as written on patch notes) and still not fixed after 2 big balance patch. On the other hand things like improvisation not working with new skills, being fixed in 2 days.

Sure, but being stupidly, comically unreasonable doesn’t make it more likely that we’ll be adjusted in a way we like. It just makes it more likely that any little time spent reading our suggestions quickly declines to zero from the near-zero it’s at now.

Obligatory

“You’re supposed to play thief as it’s role, +1’ing and de-capping. It’s not meant for anything else – L2P”

post.

Zero Day.2594:

Obligatory

“You’re supposed to play thief as it’s role, +1’ing and de-capping. It’s not meant for anything else – L2P”

post.

Uncover their bases and get them from behind when one of your own is already getting them from the front

RedSpectrum.1975:

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Said it once I’ll say it again, Shiro Tagachi on Revenant was what thief should have been

That’s what the elite for thief should have been. Thus opening up an assassin/brawler/dueler role. To be honest, the S/A or S/Shield builds for shiro, also depend quite a bit on herald.

But yeah, that’s why I’m mai’ning rev till it starts to feel sub/on-par – then I will switch again to w/e is op/flavor-of-the-month – Because hey, if kitten can’t be properly balanced in 3 years… might as well take advantage of it for the next 3 years – instead of QQ’ing about how UP my class is.

If you think about it… all those L2P’s kind of equate to “do something about it” – Well I’m, I’m rolling w/e is OP. That way I can play as opposed to struggle to play sometimes – did I learn how to play just now? lolz

RedSpectrum.1975:

Zero Day.2594:

Obligatory

“You’re supposed to play thief as it’s role, +1’ing and de-capping. It’s not meant for anything else – L2P”

post.

Uncover their bases and get them from behind when one of your own is already getting them from the front

And so, we shall call the role “The Porn Star”.

I’m still waiting for CiS back at master tier and SE revert. At this point it’s malicious stupidity not ignorance or foolishness anymore not an intended rant but he/they is/are asking for it like his/their soul(s) rely on it. Feedback is not even requested anymore it has already overloaded there is no possible hold up.

On those suggestions it’s simply random ideas to the more used skills just hughh…why?

Zero Day.2594:

RedSpectrum.1975:

Zero Day.2594:

Obligatory

“You’re supposed to play thief as it’s role, +1’ing and de-capping. It’s not meant for anything else – L2P”

post.

Uncover their bases and get them from behind when one of your own is already getting them from the front

And so, we shall call the role “The Porn Star”.

I’m disappointed this didn’t have the effect it should on me but +1 anyway.

Sagat.3285:

Zero Day.2594:

RedSpectrum.1975:

Zero Day.2594:

Obligatory

“You’re supposed to play thief as it’s role, +1’ing and de-capping. It’s not meant for anything else – L2P”

post.

Uncover their bases and get them from behind when one of your own is already getting them from the front

And so, we shall call the role “The Porn Star”.

I’m disappointed this didn’t have the effect it should on me but +1 anyway.

Oh gigidy

Azure – people might take you seriously and if that happens, i will hate both them and you!

Jana.6831:

Azure – people might take you seriously and if that happens, i will hate both them and you!

Nerf Wish List was…what wouldn’t?

Just malicious stupidity.

Sagat.3285:

Nerf Wish List was…what wouldn’t?

Just malicious stupidity.

Yes, but still it was taken seriously, that’s why I lost faith in people’s intelligence and assume they’ll be convinced to nerf thief further because people are still saying the class is OP

Jana.6831:

Sagat.3285:

Nerf Wish List was…what wouldn’t?

Just malicious stupidity.

Yes, but still it was taken seriously, that’s why I lost faith in people’s intelligence and assume they’ll be convinced to nerf thief further because people are still saying the class is OP

There was a rev complaining that he couldn’t catch a thief due to CD on Shiro’s PT…I mean I just want them to entertain me at this point “he who knows his name” failed to do what he could do. Pistol purity 2.0 and conditional cleansing were decent.

I had one complain about it. Cracked me up “but then I’m out of energy” “and I’m out of initiative. however you can swap legends and start at 50% energy again” “thief still op, has shortbow 5”. Screw it, delete shortbow 5. Give us real wep sets. No, better. Just nerf shortbow 5 to 15 initiative.

Jana.6831:

Azure – people might take you seriously and if that happens, i will hate both them and you!

What are you talking about?

Clearly thief is brain dead ridiculous faceroll hertseeker bot.

Heaven forbid thieves actually have to try to decap

Azure The Heartless.3261:

Jana.6831:

Azure – people might take you seriously and if that happens, i will hate both them and you!

What are you talking about?

Clearly thief is brain dead ridiculous faceroll hertseeker bot.

Heaven forbid thieves actually have to try to decap

\o/
I rest my case!

My #2 key broke while fighting a rev – rev OP can’t 2222 anymore!

Shadow Refuge providing Protection would be a fantastic addition.

Serious Thought.5394:

I had one complain about it. Cracked me up “but then I’m out of energy” “and I’m out of initiative. however you can swap legends and start at 50% energy again” “thief still op, has shortbow 5”. Screw it, delete shortbow 5. Give us real wep sets. No, better. Just nerf shortbow 5 to 15 initiative.

Wouldn’t it be awesome to hit a button and get back half your initiative without having to use any utility slots, traits, or gear to do it?