Guild Wars 2

thief’s have the most amount of skills blocked from use underwater. everyone knows if your being hunted by a thief just go into the water and watch them stay out like a cat and a pond.
yes this does promote dynamic game play and using your environment in combat but its a bit unfair to make a class so useless under water (unless venom build)
i don’t see why blinding powder and shadow refuge cant be adapted like most classes such as ranger spirits turning into aquatic forms or ele elite tornado or mesmer time warp

my idea for aquatic versions of these skills

Squid ink (blinding powder) Blind foes in the target area and grant stealth to nearby allies. this will work the same as blinding powder the target being you

Ink bubble (Shadow Refuge) Create a pulsing Ink bubble refuge at the target area that heals allies and cloaks them in stealth. work just like time warp the target area is your char

also im shore thief’s would be willing to loss 1s per pulse if needs be just to have these skills under water

Lol… thief is awesome underwater if you actually know what skills you can get from diff wpns. Crazy evade uptime while doin dmg.

Yeah.. while I agree having better access to stealth underwater would be nice - mainly for PVE - the only underwater skills you -need- are what you have, and even then you’ll probably only use your heal and roll for initiative. The weapon skills are that good.

I’d like to see more skills like that for thief while on land. We need an off hand sword.

^+ skill 4 and 5 on harpoon makes it so easy, but seriousssly easy to catch anyone under water. Those combined with Expeditious Dodger, makes me want to go underwater after chase, maybe you are just afraid of water. I have never had a problem with that.

Thief skills underwater are broken. They are usually brokenly bad but they are also sometimes brokenly good so try to find those situations.

i agree but my problem is with the traits when entering the water my 30 points in shadow arts is now more than useless. i loss my healing, my might, my invis and my condition remover. i run a mix of cel and berserk and i use this in vwv. pve and frac and my role in a party is some dps but also ressing the downed in the water i cant do this. its the fact im stuck with having to just chuck some random utils to fill the slot normaly a signet and some trick just becz

Yeah well, they cannot add underwater skills in every single trait now can they? I have over 2000h and I have killed many underwater with my thief. Underwater chasing are normally longer, and most ppl uses it to escape, thief normally dont follow, cuz there is easier kills around

joith lol i know u play guard more than thief. alot more as i play most of the game with u in my guild so plz if your going to post anything be constructive i agree they cant just add all skills but thief have a 11/22 skills unusable under water thats alot. to say war only have 4 they cant use and guard 4 also

Just spam 5 on spear while your enemy tries to hit you…

tow line – an amazing skill that pulls you to your enemy and stuns you (yes you, not your enemy) for 4 initiative….lol underwater combat balance

Thief underwater is decent with movement on the harpoon gun and evasion on the spear. It helps to learn the other class underwater skills as well. That helps you figure out when it’s best to flat out run.

Try to grab whatever utilities will work best for how you play. It’s better to make the best of it than not try to deal with it at all. Even if the best thing is loading up on whatever helps you run better. Swim better. Whatever.

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I always have trouble deciding what to pick as my underwater elite.

Interceptor, you should choose Basilisk Venom. It’s the most useful underwater. The other ones suck.

Unless chasing a warrior, I don’t see how you lose anyone with thief underwater. In wvw ruins you can detonate the #5 early to get to corners quick, or just let it do its thing. I think our lack of underwater stealth is shameful but hiding in water is silly enough, not to mention couple HiS with #5 harpoon gun in the opposite direction and they usually lose you (don’t aim at them, it does damage).

Basically we lose almost all our utilities underwater, but our weapon skills are pretty uber. I do feel that since they nerfed some of them though, they should unlock a few things.

But yeah. Point stands – without them, we’re still very powerful underwater.

Interceptor.2653:

I don’t know about the rest of you, but I always have trouble deciding what to pick as my underwater elite.

lol +1

Basilisk Venom,Deluge Deluge Deluge Deluge Deluge, Escape, Deluge Deluge Deluge, Basilisk Venom, Deluge Deluge Deluge

Lamuness.3570:

Interceptor, you should choose Basilisk Venom. It’s the most useful underwater. The other ones suck.

You got so trolled! The ONLY skill we can pick underwater is basilisk venom hahaha

Darkstorn.5423:

Lamuness.3570:

Interceptor, you should choose Basilisk Venom. It’s the most useful underwater. The other ones suck.

You got so trolled! The ONLY skill we can pick underwater is basilisk venom hahaha

That was the joke.

Yes but he hasn’t realized it yet

Hahahahah arenanet do something positive for thief, you’re funny.

Darkstorn.5423:

Yes but he hasn’t realized it yet

I will necro this thread just to say that sarcasm is the best thing to attempt on the internet