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Posted by: Nephar.3746

Nephar.3746

What about doing a raid only with thieves?
Tank thieves, condi thieves and power thieves. Who need a healer when u can rotate Skelk Venom with venomous aura + personal healing? Only problem i can think of is might stacking.. maybe thrill of the crime with strenght runes.. i dont know..
That would be hilarious i think noone will have problem going share the aoe on first boss lol.
what u think guys?

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Posted by: Raguel.9402

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I’m in! i can do power.

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Posted by: blarghhrrkblah.3412

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The problem wont be the lack of cc, but rather the lack of knockbacks. A problem I’ve been having with my guild is that the ranged team in charge of the green circle tends to die to Seekers, even with decent amounts of knockbacks, etc. Since thief has none of these, I don’t see it going that well, especially because thief is so fragile.

That said, it would be hilarious if this ends up working.

Edit: unless stealth makes Seekers ignore you…then it might not be as large of an issue…

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Posted by: Gray.9041

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The problem wont be the lack of cc, but rather the lack of knockbacks. A problem I’ve been having with my guild is that the ranged team in charge of the green circle tends to die to Seekers, even with decent amounts of knockbacks, etc. Since thief has none of these, I don’t see it going that well, especially because thief is so fragile.

That said, it would be hilarious if this ends up working.

Edit: unless stealth makes Seekers ignore you…then it might not be as large of an issue…

I’ve notice this, espescially in raids. there’s a few ways in which thief is the odd class out, but being the only class without knockbacks is certainly one of the more notable ones here. it’s a situation staff or physicals could easily have fixed, but apparently they decided not to.

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Posted by: Doggie.3184

Doggie.3184

Venoms Might stack though. I can see seekers beiing a problem. Would be nice if staff had a knockback, even if it costed high ini~

Can seekers be blinded? I think you can blind the blue aoe. What about everyone standing in green use S/P evade spam? .-.

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Posted by: Serious Thought.5394

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Pistol 2 roots them?

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Posted by: Gray.9041

Gray.9041

Pistol 2 roots them?

2 is a short immobilise, but that’ll only ever slow them for a bit. a knockback not only slows them, but sends them away, undoing their progress. it’s far more effective. also, to keep the seekers at bay you’d have to spam body shot, which would cause a sizable loss of DPS.

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Posted by: Doggie.3184

Doggie.3184

Pistol 2 roots them?

Sometimes root isn’t enough depending on where they spawn. There are times when it’s directly on top of the green and needs to be moved.

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Posted by: Serious Thought.5394

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True. Shadowstep, scorpion wire? Dash/wire?

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Posted by: BlueDragon.7054

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It should be doable without pushing the red orbs, you don t need to stand in the Green aoe for the full duration, Just the Last seconds.

So you could be near the Green circle but not on it to prevent the red orbs from stacking there, and then before you run out of time port iinside with shortbow 5, shadow step, a dodge or whats ver you have.

Although it would be harder than getting to the Green circle as son as possible, sb 3 can algo help inside the circle with good positioning.

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Posted by: BlueDragon.7054

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The problem would be the might stacking, may be with 4 venom share condi thieves(one of them would be the tank), but Im not sure that would be enough might. Although the lack of the full 25 stacks of might could be compensated because of the extra player dealing good damage by not having a healer.

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Posted by: Nephar.3746

Nephar.3746

Yes might stacking could be a problem, maybe with 4 condition leeching poison would be enough, but should be tested. In general there would be less room for mistake but i think it can be done, at least spirit guardian. Tank doesnt need to be extremely tanky, just a bit of toughness to keep aggro and i think he can tank pretty well with S/P + malice dishing out good dps.
Would not be ideal, but an inc with 30 person (al thieves guild).. LOL

(edited by Nephar.3746)

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Posted by: Yureii.4236

Yureii.4236

Sign me up – Daredevil Staff + P/P dps power Thief. I can do close range or green circles, whichever works.

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Posted by: The Jarl.6207

The Jarl.6207

Hit me up! Staff + shortbow(for backup circles) would be willing to switch to P/P if needed.. XD

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Posted by: EazyPanda.6419

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Troll idea… I’m in
Condi Viper Venomshare thief here.

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Posted by: Raguel.9402

Raguel.9402

We would have to test if we can:

1. Pistol whip evade the seekers on point
2. Stealth from them

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Posted by: Nephar.3746

Nephar.3746

i think stealth should work cause from my experience they react like all mobs ai, they follow players, so if u are stealthed they should not come by. i hope the bolt is shared even if are in stealth tough cause i know that if u are downed it doesnt count u.

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Posted by: Raguel.9402

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Need to test it then if it would…

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Posted by: Shadow Het.9814

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You can count me in too sound’s like a Lot if fun

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Posted by: Nephar.3746

Nephar.3746

We can try to organise it! would be nice if some1 could take a vid. tomorrow evening prime time?

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Posted by: Raguel.9402

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Im usualy on in EU prime time, but can stay up a bit longer if needed

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Posted by: Tabootrinket.2631

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Sounds fun ! I’m in, if I’m at home at the time it’s decided

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Posted by: Rai.9625

Rai.9625

I wanna try too!

How about:

Tank: using S/P + S/P, Omnom Berry Ghost, Maintainance Oil, Invigorating Precision etc. with good timing he can go quite zerky… Evade Tank with heal?

Healer… well I think we should use multiple Venom sharers, as they are our offensive support and defensive support (might and heal)

I would say: 3 Venom Sharers on Condi spec, 1 or 2 on Zerker Spec (for Might Stacks alone)

A good choice of Weapons would be PP as secondary for 3 or 4 which run into the green AOE (range dmg)

For the Venom Sharer on Condi i think D/D + SB (whirling thru Poison fields = more Posion)

2 should at least be Daredevil for the knockback (bandit guard and Scorpion wire)

Enough Boon steal should be there regardless

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Posted by: Raguel.9402

Raguel.9402

Sounds good

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Posted by: Rai.9625

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so we need an appointed time xD and/or a thief/assassin guild xD

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Posted by: Nephar.3746

Nephar.3746

is [teef] still up?

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Posted by: Raguel.9402

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I’d suggest Friday for the raid attempt. Just need to finish Bo before that xD

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Posted by: Nephar.3746

Nephar.3746

ok i add all of u, so we can organise in-game

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Posted by: Raguel.9402

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Ok should use TS as well

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Posted by: Kabelinho.8064

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Hi, I wanna try too. I prefere to go zerk, but I can change if you want.

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Posted by: BlueDragon.7054

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If you are on NA I would like to try algo.

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Posted by: merdesa.5086

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I would do this; I want to do this.

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Posted by: Tora.7214

Tora.7214

Hehe this reminds me of the full beastmaster raid i participated once in Ro2. 20 bears (a bear form similar to wow’s but anthromorphic wich basically plays as a self healing tank) agaisnt the raid boss, we were even visited mid fight by a GM who took a screenshot and posted it on Facebook hehe

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Posted by: Rogue Sol.1457

Rogue Sol.1457

This sounds like silly fun. I might want to join in.

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Posted by: Althran.8073

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Aluthran is in!

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Posted by: Reem.3578

Reem.3578

OMG i want too!!
Sounds like best idea ever!

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Posted by: MakubeC.3026

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I can tank!
Invite me!

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Posted by: Swiftwynd.1685

Swiftwynd.1685

I’m so down.

By the way, Seekers move towards who ever last hit them.

Shortbow Thief should easily be the “best” Seeker Wrangler. Bouncing auto to tag them, then short bow 5’s legendary mobility to lead them away, while repositioning to dps the boss. This could potentially be a neat “full ranged” thief build, using Pistol Pistol to dps the boss until all initiative is drained, while then using Roll for Initiative away from boss to lead the seekers away, then back in to dps quickly before repeating.

I’m sooo down to do this, please PM me about it later!!

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Posted by: Nephar.3746

Nephar.3746

i tryed to contact many of u, but its difficult to set up a night when at least 10 are available. the better solution is maybe creating a new guild just for this purpose.
Btw i tried to tank it yesterday and can easily be tanked with pistol-whip + dodge. It becomes more difficult in the other phases cause when i made a mistake boss hit like truck (i had 1390 toughness, full zerk only rings and earrings soldier).
I absolutely think it can be done, but it will be challenging.

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Posted by: Raguel.9402

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I’ll be on today around 21:00 CET (europe). Can stay longer if needed

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