Thoughts on new/abnormal thief build?

Thoughts on new/abnormal thief build?

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Posted by: Xial.4715

Xial.4715

My main char so far is a thief, lvl 50 or so and i kind of noticed how easy it is for you to die; say if somethings on cooldown your out of dodges or you just plain get roflstomped, plus when i ran dungeons with my guild i would have to be revived pretty often, i was losing more coin then i was making so i decided to try and think out of the box…they say there’s no “healer” class even though gaurdian is probably the closest to it, but i messed around with some traits, learned alot of new things about this class, and im sorta suprised that i havent seen this before to my knowledge, so il introduce my “build”, its based around survivability and healing to be more beneficial to party and general pve activites.

TL;DR
Got tired of dying pretty often, made a experimental build; my shadow support [i use that term loosely]

Would like to see other peoples opinions on it, possible ways i could improve it/and or why i shouldn’t bother with it.
“current lvl 50 what i have”: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYEQNAoYVlUmaPHfS6E/pEBnCma0OFXVrA

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Posted by: Xial.4715

Xial.4715

lvl 80 pvp build: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYQQNAoYVlUmaPHfS6E/5EB3DmaUn6VAsdPuqWtKA

for some reason wouldnt let me post it with the runes saved :s But i planned on using monk runes for the aegis and +healing and a mix of vit/tough/pow/prec upgrade stones

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Posted by: ZLE.8293

ZLE.8293

You can make it work for sure,but only with condition runes&amulet.It would take some changes thou.If you are ok with condition thief we can discuss.

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Posted by: Xial.4715

Xial.4715

Im sorta glad you brought that up actually, at first i figured id need some way to deal damage, so i turned to conditions, i’d prolly have to go back into pvp and try some things out, but any tips for making it balanced? I’d like to be able to be able to heal and keep my friends alive or at least prolong them while dishing out decent damage when im given the oppourtunity or they just plain dont need me.

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Posted by: ZLE.8293

ZLE.8293

Well it is sorta generic.You have zero deadly arts and zero critical strikes.
What don’t crit and aren’t affected by power?
What can deal damage while you are in stealth?
Bleeds.
Actually deadly arts affects bleed duration,but i figured out that prolonging the duration is not as good as increasing the strenght of the ticks.People are learning
to cure bleeds and you might wanna shorter but more powerful ticks.
So zero deadly arts isn’t to bad,exept you lose the poison from Steal.
I would suggest Caltrops trick,caltrops on dodge,endurance regen on dodge,might on dodge(might affect bleeds).Change elite to Dagger Storm,Shadow Refuge is OK.

Edit:You will not heal your teammates so much,exept once 30 sec(you aren’t guardian sorry),but you will be able to kill and die hard.

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(edited by ZLE.8293)

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Posted by: Xial.4715

Xial.4715

Sounds about what i had when i was running condition/healer, saving up for dagger storm atm, one of the things i was torn on was whether to go d/d or p/d for the build, Db is a great evasive move, but the stealth attack for pistol is great for stacking. Whats your take on weapon sets with this?

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Posted by: ZLE.8293

ZLE.8293

Well i run both D/D and P/D.I stay as D/D while i can afford to DB+C&D.Once i run out of initiative,i change to P/D and play only C&D+Sneak Attack until i regen enough initiative.Then rinse and repeat.

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Posted by: Xial.4715

Xial.4715

Ahh, makes sense, better to save the bow for wvw wheres its prolly most useful, d/d with p/d seems to make the most sense, thanks for the tips

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Posted by: ZLE.8293

ZLE.8293

Well the bow have poison aoe and bleeds from cluster and also great InfArrow.
However i found myself not running from anyone anymore.I just feel safer near a target to C&D at any time.This kind of gameplay is ment to stay and slowly kill the target/s while going in/out of stealth near him and slowly regen your own hp.That ruled out the Short Bow and put in place C&D in every hand.Thus D/D P/D.

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Posted by: Softspoken.2410

Softspoken.2410

Just one suggestion: from a support perspective, applying boons to all allies is a big deal, so in your trickery line, take Thrill of the Crime (V) instead of Flanking Strikes (IV). Fury and I believe Mightx5 is a very nice boon, and applying it to every ally near your target can net a kill. Swiftness is icing on the cake, and can even allow for an ally’s speedy retreat.

You do lose out on the flat 5% damage boost, but since your build doesn’t seem to be focusing on direct damage anyways, it doesn’t seem like a huge loss.

Mixing insults with your post is like pooping in a salad.
It’s pretty obvious, and nobody’s impressed.