Guild Wars 2

Now only 3 viable builds for thief(spvp).

• Wowlike permastealth rogue
  0/30/30/10/0 – d/p
  Berserk amulet or solder(you 3k armor 18k hp thief with 5k+ bs)

• Evade like Neo
  10/30/0/30/0 or 0/30/0/30/10 – s/d
  Berserk

• Ini generator or cc thief
  10/30/0/0/30 – s/d or d/p
  Berserk

Everything else is too little damage and survival. Or am I wrong?

Yeah those are the 3 I play… mostly 10/30/0/0/30 d/p though. I’m not patient enough for the first one :P

I won’t play #1 on the principle that it’s not fun to play against. Ridiculous to play against.

Spent most of my time in #2, a little in #3

Lately I’m a balls to the wall spike, scholar runes, 25/30/0/0/15, and I’m decent enough to survive most of the time in wvw. Most. I still die a lot. And I like it more because #1, opponents can see me so they feel like they can fight back and #2, 12k backstabs are purty.

I run 0/30/10/30/0 cause screw mainstream.

Gwalchgwn.1659:

I run 0/30/10/30/0 cause screw mainstream.

I run 30/30/5/5/0.

As far away from mainstream as possible, just the way I like it.

10/30/0/0/30 S/P here. Works wonders in sPvP. The amount of dazes, interrupts, teleports and immobilizes are insane! Really control build with a ton of damage ^^

For PvE I run 25/30/0/0/15 S/P. works wonders too ^^

Excalibur.9748:

Gwalchgwn.1659:

I run 0/30/10/30/0 cause screw mainstream.

I run 30/30/5/5/0.

As far away from mainstream as possible, just the way I like it.

ikr?

I run 25/30/10/0/5 using S/D+P/P

Wait, what about my 10/0/0/30/30 build?

I’m sure Jumper’s pretty sad too.

I now run 10/30/0/0/30 in WvW, PvE, and sPvP.

I use S/P and Shortbow, although I’m leaning towards removing shortbow. In sPvP I use Berserker, and in WvW I use nearly full berserker with some valk pieces thrown in. Definitely showed me that I was rusty on dodging and evasion (hadn’t played much in last three months) but once I got back into the swing of things I love the build.

So much daze! Biggest thing for me was learning to time my skillset evades with dodges in order to maximize evasion time.

For WvW, I can solo cap camps way faster than any condi or shadow arts build I previously used. It’s all about pulling and pistol whip.

Geiir.7603:

10/30/0/0/30 S/P here. Works wonders in sPvP. The amount of dazes, interrupts, teleports and immobilizes are insane! Really control build with a ton of damage ^^

For PvE I run 25/30/0/0/15 S/P. works wonders too ^^

That’s what made me fall in love with it too! In WvW I found that people don’t really ever expect S/P anymore and don’t really have any idea how to deal with the non-stop daze, especially once I got down some methods to minimize the amount that I telegraphed pistol whips.

AshinDreidon.3861:

Geiir.7603:

10/30/0/0/30 S/P here. Works wonders in sPvP. The amount of dazes, interrupts, teleports and immobilizes are insane! Really control build with a ton of damage ^^

For PvE I run 25/30/0/0/15 S/P. works wonders too ^^

That’s what made me fall in love with it too! In WvW I found that people don’t really ever expect S/P anymore and don’t really have any idea how to deal with the non-stop daze, especially once I got down some methods to minimize the amount that I telegraphed pistol whips.

S/P in WvW can easily take down siege engines with Pistol Whip, I personally wouldn’t use the weapon set in any other way.

10/30/0/0/30 – S/P in sPvP, but I also have a bunch of other random hipster builds that I use, just less often.
25/30/0/0/15 – D/D in WvW, sometimes change around with D/P and S/P, but WvW is so hilariously broken that D/D burst is all I really need to drop the majority of people I see in WvW.

PvE I have same as WvW, but I use S/P alot more.

I also love

Marduh.4603:

Now only 3 viable builds for thief(spvp).

• Wowlike permastealth rogue
  0/30/30/10/0 – d/p
  Berserk amulet or solder(you 3k armor 18k hp thief with 5k+ bs)

• Evade like Neo
  10/30/0/30/0 or 0/30/0/30/10 – s/d
  Berserk

• Ini generator or cc thief
  10/30/0/0/30 – s/d or d/p
  Berserk

Everything else is too little damage and survival. Or am I wrong?

forgot arguable one of the best builds out right now p/d. i also know diff variations as the more common for s/d and d/p but i get what u mean

I’m trying 0/30/0/30/10 with S/D-S/P. I find black powder and pistol whip fairly useful in situations where double S/D might not have been the best choice.

Travlane.5948:

Marduh.4603:

Now only 3 viable builds for thief(spvp).

• Wowlike permastealth rogue
  0/30/30/10/0 – d/p
  Berserk amulet or solder(you 3k armor 18k hp thief with 5k+ bs)

• Evade like Neo
  10/30/0/30/0 or 0/30/0/30/10 – s/d
  Berserk

• Ini generator or cc thief
  10/30/0/0/30 – s/d or d/p
  Berserk

Everything else is too little damage and survival. Or am I wrong?

forgot arguable one of the best builds out right now p/d. i also know diff variations as the more common for s/d and d/p but i get what u mean

P/D, like others builds, depends on who you fight, solo or in a team. I’m not saying it’s stronger (I run it a majority of the time) compared to other builds.

xmtrcv.5236:

Travlane.5948:

Marduh.4603:

Now only 3 viable builds for thief(spvp).

• Wowlike permastealth rogue
  0/30/30/10/0 – d/p
  Berserk amulet or solder(you 3k armor 18k hp thief with 5k+ bs)

• Evade like Neo
  10/30/0/30/0 or 0/30/0/30/10 – s/d
  Berserk

• Ini generator or cc thief
  10/30/0/0/30 – s/d or d/p
  Berserk

Everything else is too little damage and survival. Or am I wrong?

forgot arguable one of the best builds out right now p/d. i also know diff variations as the more common for s/d and d/p but i get what u mean

P/D, like others builds, depends on who you fight, solo or in a team. I’m not saying it’s stronger (I run it a majority of the time) compared to other builds.

what do you mean? i never have a problem fighting anyone with it. DPS is actually higher than D/P .

Sir Vincent III.1286:

AshinDreidon.3861:

Geiir.7603:

10/30/0/0/30 S/P here. Works wonders in sPvP. The amount of dazes, interrupts, teleports and immobilizes are insane! Really control build with a ton of damage ^^

For PvE I run 25/30/0/0/15 S/P. works wonders too ^^

That’s what made me fall in love with it too! In WvW I found that people don’t really ever expect S/P anymore and don’t really have any idea how to deal with the non-stop daze, especially once I got down some methods to minimize the amount that I telegraphed pistol whips.

S/P in WvW can easily take down siege engines with Pistol Whip, I personally wouldn’t use the weapon set in any other way.

It works great for me though. As he were saying; people don’t expect it and they really have no idea how to handle to constant shadow stepping and interrupting. With steal and infiltrator signet it’s pretty easy to land the entire pistol whip too ^^

Travlane.5948:

what do you mean? i never have a problem fighting anyone with it. DPS is actually higher than D/P .

I meant that P/D suffers more against other condition builds than (than S/x or D/P. Unless… your other weapon set offers you condition clears, or you give up some venom/utility for one that provides condition clear (Shadowstep or Signet of Agility).

S/D and D/P are more popular because the weapons sets offer a broader range of utility.

DPS means less if you cannot find relief from pressure in the form of conditions (which seems to be the new meta).

xmtrcv.5236:

Travlane.5948:

what do you mean? i never have a problem fighting anyone with it. DPS is actually higher than D/P .

I meant that P/D suffers more against other condition builds than (than S/x or D/P. Unless… your other weapon set offers you condition clears, or you give up some venom/utility for one that provides condition clear (Shadowstep or Signet of Agility).

S/D and D/P are more popular because the weapons sets offer a broader range of utility.

DPS means less if you cannot find relief from pressure in the form of conditions (which seems to be the new meta).

i use descent into shadow …. 1 condi removed on stealth…another after 3 secs. basically 2 everytime i go stealth :P. plus shadowstep. condi builds have no chance. even if i didnt going invis is still going to heal what i lost from condis. DPS generally is higher from p/d than d/p unless playing against somebody who is full zerk build with low toughness and armor etc.