Guild Wars 2

Hey guys,

I created a Torment-P/D-Build in theory (I know I won´t be the first one):

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAqYVl0Mp0plPx7JsPNRORt5DEAe3EVRE25REEA-TVyAABWoEEI1fe+BAAg5vb0EEjeAq3f4JlfbfCAIFwjSjA-w

I can´t test it in WvW because I don´t have enough gold atm. But before I try to practise this build, I want to ask you guys if this build is something.
The idea is:
– To spam 3 to stack 2 torment
– 27,5% chance for sigill of torment with autoattack
– Withdraw for 2 stacks

The cons are:
– little life pool
– you need to dodge good (but 4 points in acrobatics + Vigor + Withdraw)

Do you have any ideas for improvement

I also spam a LOT of Torment in WvW.

My current build is: http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fZAQNAqYVlsMp8pdOx7J8PRBNRtVGwZNkCefFdxGqVAA-TFzCABOcIAoTTAAHBALV354HAAg6BwSJknqEklynZ2fY6TAwYKBDAgAMzysNvZghO0hO0hO0m5Rn5Mn5MLFwiKrA-w

You’ll find that, in WvW, you really need to have several (4 or more) conditions ready to spam at any time, as nearly everyone in WvW runs some type of cleansing, so spamming 1 condition over and over will simply see it cleaned until you’re out of initiative. I ran the same food as you for Condi Burst for a few months, but found that the extra 50% Condi Duration was very helpful, as about 30% or more of the players in WvW are running at least -40-60% Condi Duration from Foods and Runes these days.

Also keep in mind that Cripple and Torment need to be used together as much as possible; Cripple causes enemies to spend more time trying catch up to you or run away, allowing your Torment stacks to do more damage. There’s nothing particularly wrong with your build, btw. I personally prefer Krait Runes b/c they’re CHEAP, they increase the effectiveness of my Bleed stacks, which are the default attack for P/D Thieves & can be used even without Initiative, and the big AoE Condi stack I can throw out every 30 seconds is actually very, very helpful. If I lead with my Elite Skill (throwing out my AoE Condi stack from runes, including Torment), I find that it usually causes most players in the area to blow their Cleansing Cooldowns right away, allowing me to get on with the job of laying down Conditions that they can do little about (^_^).

But do you think sigil of torment is necessary in your build?
You just have 17% chance of crit – so chance of stacking 1torment is just 8,5%

I’ve actually been checking it on video a lot, b/c I thought the same thing, and there are several easy ways to increase my Precision as a Thief, or I could simply change to a more effective Sigil. However, on video the Sigil of Torment appears to go off about every 8-9 seconds. If you had a 95% Critical Chance build, you would still only get it to proc every 6 seconds at best, anyway, so I’m satisfied with the timing for now. I had considered the Chill Sigil (which is based on Hits, not Crits) that a lot of Condi thieves run, but for the moment I still prefer the Sigil of Torment. There are certainly other viable choices, however.