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Posted by: Mujen.5287

Mujen.5287

Just a quick duel between two warriors and myself, enjoy!
This isn’t made with any negative intent, so please do not respond to it as such!

http://tinyurl.com/bymhwby

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Posted by: Evilek.5690

Evilek.5690

Hmm 2x warrior with basic trait and gear ?

What’s the point of this video?

Evilek lvl 80 Charr Thief Why no ?
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Posted by: BobbyT.7192

BobbyT.7192

Hmm 2x warrior with basic trait and gear ?

What’s the point of this video?

does it need a point?

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Posted by: Zacchary.6183

Zacchary.6183

Were they even trying?

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Posted by: Arganthium.5638

Arganthium.5638

This isn’t a duel, this is a video of one warrior running around with no purpose as you slay him/her, and another trying to duel you but failing miserably by running in random directions and looking like an idiot. Your build isn’t even all that good; you probably would have lost had you gone against a single more experienced warrior.

Not impressed.

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Posted by: uri.6521

uri.6521

The warior has probably one of the worst condition removals in the game, in fact, the wariors in the video had 0 condition removal so, being hit by a death bolossom will ensure them taking 3000 damage over 10 seconds (10 seconds of 3 stacks of bleed at 100 damage/tick), even the thief was making errors by leting himself get hit and spaming death blossom.
If there was a better thief in the video (i dont use thief BTW) he could easily take 3 wariors and still win.

Oh and i play warior so i know they have 0 condition removal.

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Posted by: Mujen.5287

Mujen.5287

This isn’t a duel, this is a video of one warrior running around with no purpose as you slay him/her, and another trying to duel you but failing miserably by running in random directions and looking like an idiot. Your build isn’t even all that good; you probably would have lost had you gone against a single more experienced warrior.

Not impressed.

I actually don’t lose to many warriors, i’m in no form trolling, harassing, or making fun of either warrior. I actually think my build is pretty outstanding. I try not run cookie cutter back stab or stealth based builds. and it works great with a team!

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

cookie cutter backstab hasnt worked in months :P….

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Posted by: Mujen.5287

Mujen.5287

The warior has probably one of the worst condition removals in the game, in fact, the wariors in the video had 0 condition removal so, being hit by a death bolossom will ensure them taking 3000 damage over 10 seconds (10 seconds of 3 stacks of bleed at 100 damage/tick), even the thief was making errors by leting himself get hit and spaming death blossom.
If there was a better thief in the video (i dont use thief BTW) he could easily take 3 wariors and still win.

Oh and i play warior so i know they have 0 condition removal.

Death Blossom – Do an evasive attack over your opponent, striking nearby enemies three times. Each hit causes bleeding.
The reason I use so much is to not only stack bleeds but also to evade incoming attacks. But I do agree my accuracy could be much better!

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Posted by: Mujen.5287

Mujen.5287

cookie cutter backstab hasnt worked in months :P….

Yet I still encounter around 7 out of 10 thieves still using it! They live and die by their heartseeker.

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Posted by: PearlGore.7419

PearlGore.7419

cookie cutter backstab hasnt worked in months :P….

Yet I still encounter around 7 out of 10 thieves still using it! They live and die by their heartseeker.

I use D/D/BS still. No one spams Heartseeker, do they? :O

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Posted by: jportell.2197

jportell.2197

Even though people are saying cookie cutter backstab hasn’t worked in months then why is their so much rage about the mug nerf? Wasn’t that trait necessary in the rotation of a cookie cutter backstab build?

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

cookie cutter backstab hasnt worked in months :P….

Yet I still encounter around 7 out of 10 thieves still using it! They live and die by their heartseeker.

either ur on the smallest server in the game….OR….ur misidentifying it. d/d cookie cutter backstab hasnt been a viable build in a long time. not even when mug would crit. it make seem like it as people that were using heartseeker/backstab alot.

actually people are sheep and i think yishis or w.e. his name is did a new d/d video of a few random clips of d/d doing ok here n there. i think people might be trying it out again as they feel that if yishis is doing it they are going to do well too. the real deal is that 75% of wvw thieves (saying this to be safe…id be closer to 85 or 90%) are using d/p with backup sb or s/d……the other small % is a mix of s/d and p/d users. ….of course a small few outliers might run d/d but so small i cant remember the last time i saw one on t2 servers.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

Even though people are saying cookie cutter backstab hasn’t worked in months then why is their so much rage about the mug nerf? Wasn’t that trait necessary in the rotation of a cookie cutter backstab build?

mug was good in any build with hit crit dmg. s/d ….d/p…………. best case scenario is when people would open with mug CND Steal BS then switch back to a real weapon set as d/d offered such little defense the thief would immediately (as it felt) DIE if there were other around. generally mug did around 3-4k on a crit…..if u sacrificed all defense you could do a lil over 6k…. so before this a GC thief could still kill 1 person and stomp before they die. now after the mug nerf….there really is no reason to go GC anymore. its dead :P a GC thief cant even burst my thief down nevermind a real player with higher defenses.

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Posted by: Kaizer.7135

Kaizer.7135

cookie cutter backstab hasnt worked in months :P….

Yet I still encounter around 7 out of 10 thieves still using it! They live and die by their heartseeker.

I use D/D/BS still. No one spams Heartseeker, do they? :O

Go hotjoin or WvW, you’ll see a lot of people HS spamming lol. It’s pretty hilarious.

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Posted by: Mujen.5287

Mujen.5287

cookie cutter backstab hasnt worked in months :P….

Yet I still encounter around 7 out of 10 thieves still using it! They live and die by their heartseeker.

either ur on the smallest server in the game….OR….ur misidentifying it. d/d cookie cutter backstab hasnt been a viable build in a long time. not even when mug would crit. it make seem like it as people that were using heartseeker/backstab alot.

actually people are sheep and i think yishis or w.e. his name is did a new d/d video of a few random clips of d/d doing ok here n there. i think people might be trying it out again as they feel that if yishis is doing it they are going to do well too. the real deal is that 75% of wvw thieves (saying this to be safe…id be closer to 85 or 90%) are using d/p with backup sb or s/d……the other small % is a mix of s/d and p/d users. ….of course a small few outliers might run d/d but so small i cant remember the last time i saw one on t2 servers.

Tarnished Coast, and I play primarily fight in sPvP.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

cookie cutter backstab hasnt worked in months :P….

Yet I still encounter around 7 out of 10 thieves still using it! They live and die by their heartseeker.

either ur on the smallest server in the game….OR….ur misidentifying it. d/d cookie cutter backstab hasnt been a viable build in a long time. not even when mug would crit. it make seem like it as people that were using heartseeker/backstab alot.

actually people are sheep and i think yishis or w.e. his name is did a new d/d video of a few random clips of d/d doing ok here n there. i think people might be trying it out again as they feel that if yishis is doing it they are going to do well too. the real deal is that 75% of wvw thieves (saying this to be safe…id be closer to 85 or 90%) are using d/p with backup sb or s/d……the other small % is a mix of s/d and p/d users. ….of course a small few outliers might run d/d but so small i cant remember the last time i saw one on t2 servers.

Tarnished Coast, and I play primarily fight in sPvP.

im dragonbrand and am soley speaking of wvw. i cant vouch for spvp as i only play maybe 6 matches a day .

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Posted by: PearlGore.7419

PearlGore.7419

On Tarnished Coast I never seen anyone else with D/D, I just enjoy the style. As far as SPVP goes I’ll get back to you when there are more game modes lol.

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Posted by: TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

This isn’t a duel, this is a video of one warrior running around with no purpose as you slay him/her, and another trying to duel you but failing miserably by running in random directions and looking like an idiot. Your build isn’t even all that good; you probably would have lost had you gone against a single more experienced warrior.

Not impressed.

I actually don’t lose to many warriors, i’m in no form trolling, harassing, or making fun of either warrior. I actually think my build is pretty outstanding. I try not run cookie cutter back stab or stealth based builds. and it works great with a team!

When did they introduce Beginner Spvp Bots? Nice job though.

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Posted by: PopeUrban.2578

PopeUrban.2578

On Tarnished Coast I never seen anyone else with D/D, I just enjoy the style. As far as SPVP goes I’ll get back to you when there are more game modes lol.

I run D/D Deathblossom/evasion on TC. You may occasionally see me zerg diving but I spend most of my time on the other side of the map assassinating yaks and, on occasion, killing the people who defend them.

Sadly I haven’t been around as much due to work lately and all of these fun PvE updates, lol

I will agree though, D/D is no longer “hot” in WvW, it’s all about the P/D or D/P for most thieves. Honestly I was a better 1vX and zerg diver with P/D but I feel like I do more for the team with my evasion based yaksassinating build.

Guild Master – The Papacy [POPE] (Gate of Madness)/Road Scholar for the Durmand Priory
Writer/Director – Quaggan Quest
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Posted by: manudiao.9803

manudiao.9803

So … hey. You’re showing us how you perma evade and stack bleeds vs the class who’s got the worst condition removal. great job :>

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Posted by: Mathias.9657

Mathias.9657

Lol those wars were basically afk. That 2nd war would have smashed you if not for his extreeeeemely delayed 100b after frenzy. Probably the worst players in GW2.

Back to WoW, make GW2 fun please.

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Posted by: Seren.6850

Seren.6850

The warior has probably one of the worst condition removals in the game, in fact, the wariors in the video had 0 condition removal so, being hit by a death bolossom will ensure them taking 3000 damage over 10 seconds (10 seconds of 3 stacks of bleed at 100 damage/tick), even the thief was making errors by leting himself get hit and spaming death blossom.
If there was a better thief in the video (i dont use thief BTW) he could easily take 3 wariors and still win.

Oh and i play warior so i know they have 0 condition removal.

I main warrior, but been playing my new thief a lot,

warrior mending heal is like 2 removals, shake it off is 2 (3 with soldier runes) fgj and omm also condition remover with runes. They don’t actually have 0

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Posted by: bladie.5084

bladie.5084

I have a better idea, instead of over exaggerating your comments, why don’t you guys challenge the guy to a duel? Props for taking the time to make a vid though.

Just remember, when making a vid it takes time and effort into doing it. And the viewers take their time to watch it. Next time find some more competant players to duel against.

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Posted by: Mujen.5287

Mujen.5287

I have a better idea, instead of over exaggerating your comments, why don’t you guys challenge the guy to a duel? Props for taking the time to make a vid though.

Just remember, when making a vid it takes time and effort into doing it. And the viewers take their time to watch it. Next time find some more competant players to duel against.

Thanks man I appreciate that. If anyone would like to duel I am always up for it and willing to get better!

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Posted by: TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

I for one definitely dont want to duel this guy , think i want to be bled to death on my engie? , heck no…lol

I never expect to lose. Even when I’m the Engineer , I still prepare a victory speech.

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

id destroy this thief….:P i know warriors that could too. SoR build works on him….boom gg.

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Posted by: TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

id destroy this thief….:P i know warriors that could too. SoR build works on him….boom gg.

Trav what GW2 player CANT you destroy lol :o

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

destroy? nobody. lose to? quite a few. destroy means like no chance of winning or so little its not worth considering. basically what i meant was it wasnt particularly good play here :P. on thief or warrior.

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Posted by: Void.4239

Void.4239

The warior has probably one of the worst condition removals in the game, in fact, the wariors in the video had 0 condition removal so, being hit by a death bolossom will ensure them taking 3000 damage over 10 seconds (10 seconds of 3 stacks of bleed at 100 damage/tick), even the thief was making errors by leting himself get hit and spaming death blossom.
If there was a better thief in the video (i dont use thief BTW) he could easily take 3 wariors and still win.

Oh and i play warior so i know they have 0 condition removal.

Death Blossom – Do an evasive attack over your opponent, striking nearby enemies three times. Each hit causes bleeding.
The reason I use so much is to not only stack bleeds but also to evade incoming attacks. But I do agree my accuracy could be much better!

you think thats alot of evade?

here you go , this will help you alot
endless dodges / DD condi build

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/professions/thief/PVP-bunker-dodger-build-New-Vids-Part3

switch SoS for signet of agility, for the 100% endurance and condi removal

have fun with it

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Posted by: savints.6281

savints.6281

It was ok I guess, but I only have one question, why do you play sooo zoomed in, that really only hinders yourself.

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Posted by: Miserymachine.7512

Miserymachine.7512

Why is everyone so aggressively dismissive when people post videos. Are you so jaded that you have to be rocked to your foundation by every video that is posted? OP just wanted to share a video of him fighting, he didn’t want to change your life or change the way everyone plays this class.

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Posted by: Mujen.5287

Mujen.5287

It was ok I guess, but I only have one question, why do you play sooo zoomed in, that really only hinders yourself.

That was spectator view, not me actually recording.

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Posted by: savints.6281

savints.6281

Why is everyone so aggressively dismissive when people post videos. Are you so jaded that you have to be rocked to your foundation by every video that is posted? OP just wanted to share a video of him fighting, he didn’t want to change your life or change the way everyone plays this class.

It’s kinda a human nature thing/ego thing I suppose (not saying I am this way) but when you post a video of your self playing a game/class that a lot of people play, of course you’re going to get judged by your fellow peers, it’s just a thing that happens in any game, you’re just putting your self out their for “critiquing”

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Posted by: Mujen.5287

Mujen.5287

Why is everyone so aggressively dismissive when people post videos. Are you so jaded that you have to be rocked to your foundation by every video that is posted? OP just wanted to share a video of him fighting, he didn’t want to change your life or change the way everyone plays this class.

Thank you for actually getting the purpose of my post. Even after I wrote people still feel the need to say how much they are better for some reason.

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Posted by: Mujen.5287

Mujen.5287

Why is everyone so aggressively dismissive when people post videos. Are you so jaded that you have to be rocked to your foundation by every video that is posted? OP just wanted to share a video of him fighting, he didn’t want to change your life or change the way everyone plays this class.

It’s kinda a human nature thing/ego thing I suppose (not saying I am this way) but when you post a video of your self playing a game/class that a lot of people play, of course you’re going to get judged by your fellow peers, it’s just a thing that happens in any game, you’re just putting your self out their for “critiquing”

Well there is a difference between critiquing and this

id destroy this thief….:P i know warriors that could too. SoR build works on him….boom gg.

That is insulting.

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Posted by: savints.6281

savints.6281

Why is everyone so aggressively dismissive when people post videos. Are you so jaded that you have to be rocked to your foundation by every video that is posted? OP just wanted to share a video of him fighting, he didn’t want to change your life or change the way everyone plays this class.

It’s kinda a human nature thing/ego thing I suppose (not saying I am this way) but when you post a video of your self playing a game/class that a lot of people play, of course you’re going to get judged by your fellow peers, it’s just a thing that happens in any game, you’re just putting your self out their for “critiquing”

Well there is a difference between critiquing and this

id destroy this thief….:P i know warriors that could too. SoR build works on him….boom gg.

That is insulting.

Just ignore those kinds of people to be honest, they are just out to grow their e-kitten.

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Posted by: TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

Why is everyone so aggressively dismissive when people post videos. Are you so jaded that you have to be rocked to your foundation by every video that is posted? OP just wanted to share a video of him fighting, he didn’t want to change your life or change the way everyone plays this class.

It’s kinda a human nature thing/ego thing I suppose (not saying I am this way) but when you post a video of your self playing a game/class that a lot of people play, of course you’re going to get judged by your fellow peers, it’s just a thing that happens in any game, you’re just putting your self out their for “critiquing”

Well there is a difference between critiquing and this

id destroy this thief….:P i know warriors that could too. SoR build works on him….boom gg.

That is insulting.

Just ignore those kinds of people to be honest, they are just out to grow their e-kitten.

I want to become a Youtube Hero…

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Posted by: Travlane.5948

Travlane.5948

sorry i didnt mean to be insulting. i inferred somethign that wasnt there. just label the video as to what it is supposed to suggest?

boasting/bragging?
saying warriors are horrible?
are thief evaders broken?
this intended to be best thief build?
this the new meta?

just didnt know where you were going with it so i ran with it > didnt mean anythign as an isult. so sorry.

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Posted by: uri.6521

uri.6521

uri.6521:
The warior has probably one of the worst condition removals in the game, in fact, the wariors in the video had 0 condition removal so, being hit by a death bolossom will ensure them taking 3000 damage over 10 seconds (10 seconds of 3 stacks of bleed at 100 damage/tick), even the thief was making errors by leting himself get hit and spaming death blossom.
If there was a better thief in the video (i dont use thief BTW) he could easily take 3 wariors and still win.
Oh and i play warior so i know they have 0 condition removal.
I main warrior, but been playing my new thief a lot,
warrior mending heal is like 2 removals, shake it off is 2 (3 with soldier runes) fgj and omm also condition remover with runes. They don’t actually have 0

I also main a warior, and i know we can have condition removal, but you should play a bit more with your warrior because missed something:
1.Shake it off removes 1 condition and for many people (including myself) its uor only stun breaker
2.you can use mending to remove conditions but you dont really need the heal (you are almost at max hp in example), so it makes you choose
3. you may need other utilities instead of more shouts, and also you have to sacrifice your runes for condition removal while other classes have plenty of acces to them.

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Posted by: Mujen.5287

Mujen.5287

Really you guys are apologizing?

No, this is just silly. A lackluster video about a thief who thinks that killing two scrub warriors is worth making a video out of? Should I post a video of me killing a practice dummy with only my left hand? How about killing svanir with 3 team-mates. Perhaps people in the forums want to see me immobilize a mesmer.

What I see here is an ultra-defensive OP who gets mad whenever someone assumes the point of the topic so he hovers around in the ambiguous topic zone.

What -is- the point of the thread?

Obviously it’s not showing a skilled thief because that was atrocious. The only thing worse than the thief in the video was the 2 warriors.

It’s not about the build because the build sucks and isn’t even posted for discussion.

It’s not about how warriors suck because those are awful representatives straight out of pve who can’t even get the basic combos down.

It’s not about anything… so why post the thread?

OP hasn’t stated what this thread is about, so we’re posting about what we see. All I see is a terrible thief—who has never been on the ladder—who beat two terrible warriors.

And I read is an overly angry player responding to a video. I like to keep my threads clean, actually a player above listed a build that was quite helpful! I don’t mind criticism at all.

But saying I’m a terrible thief, my build sucks without seeing it in reality it actually sounds like your mad. And I apologize that my video made you upset on such a personal level that you needed to insult me. Hopefully you enjoy the rest of your day/night.

Here’s an older video, but I suppose you will say everyone else is garbage.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g1TyRpfrdYI

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Posted by: TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

Everyone just calm the kitten down! , lets focus on the matter at hand lol

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Posted by: Mujen.5287

Mujen.5287

Everyone just calm the kitten down! , lets focus on the matter at hand lol

lux and I actually dueled it down and found out that we are equals.

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Posted by: Lux.7169

Lux.7169

Yeah we got on skype and dueled. He is a chill guy. And he likes dinner.

[SoF]

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Posted by: Mujen.5287

Mujen.5287

Yeah we got on skype and dueled. He is a chill guy. And he likes dinner.

Remember i’m not fat. I’m just cultivating mass.

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Posted by: TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

TheOneNOnlyGeneralBama.9586

Lux did you delete your post(s)? :|

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Posted by: Coloxeus.3480

Coloxeus.3480

il show u more impressive moves. (more decent opponents 3v1 2v1)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJg-V1B4xA

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Posted by: Coloxeus.3480

Coloxeus.3480

btw forget the WvW videos on mid part of my video. ain’t that good and bad opponents. that was my newbie times.

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Posted by: Lux.7169

Lux.7169

Lux did you delete your post(s)? :|

Yup. They were uncalled for.

[SoF]

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Posted by: Seren.6850

Seren.6850

uri.6521:
The warior has probably one of the worst condition removals in the game, in fact, the wariors in the video had 0 condition removal so, being hit by a death bolossom will ensure them taking 3000 damage over 10 seconds (10 seconds of 3 stacks of bleed at 100 damage/tick), even the thief was making errors by leting himself get hit and spaming death blossom.
If there was a better thief in the video (i dont use thief BTW) he could easily take 3 wariors and still win.
Oh and i play warior so i know they have 0 condition removal.
I main warrior, but been playing my new thief a lot,
warrior mending heal is like 2 removals, shake it off is 2 (3 with soldier runes) fgj and omm also condition remover with runes. They don’t actually have 0

I also main a warior, and i know we can have condition removal, but you should play a bit more with your warrior because missed something:
1.Shake it off removes 1 condition and for many people (including myself) its uor only stun breaker
2.you can use mending to remove conditions but you dont really need the heal (you are almost at max hp in example), so it makes you choose
3. you may need other utilities instead of more shouts, and also you have to sacrifice your runes for condition removal while other classes have plenty of acces to them.

I have 1209 hours hours played on my warrior and don’t have issues with thieves, just irks me when people say warriors have 0 condition removals. Mesmers are in a far worse spot when it comes to condition removal, they have to use null field, a mantra and trait for remove condition on heal and still have a very very hard time against a p/d thief

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