Venom support theif? any good?

Venom support theif? any good?

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Posted by: Valderius Rex.4108

Valderius Rex.4108

Looking over the thief traits and a support oriented venom/healer thief looks really interesting. Thinking 30/0/30/0/10 with all the venom traits, apothecary’s/giver gear. Run the new heal venom, ult venom, skale, devourer, and shadow refuge for more support goodness.

Seeing as I don’t give a crap about zergvzerg, it would be for pve or spvp.

Anyone tried this yet?

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Posted by: Terravos.4059

Terravos.4059

I honestly am surprised I don’t see the spec more

I’m currently running it cause zerging on my Ranger is crap, so i’m running full venomaura build with 5 venoms….

The amount of utility it has is rather silly.

Shortbow as well just poison/weakness entire zergs and a blastfinisher that i can just spam the crap out of it.

Its rather silly

Oh and god help the person who’s fighting someone else if I run by.

http://www.youtube.com/user/Xsorus/videos?view=0
Xsorus – Ranger PvP movies Creator of the BM Bunker

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Posted by: MyCondolences.8172

MyCondolences.8172

I ran venomshare in pve for a bit and found it works something like this.
The worst your party is, the better the spec is and vice versa.
Its amazing sustain and adds a good amount of party heals but the dmg is meh at best. If the party is doing fine then really its just a loss in DPS.

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Posted by: Zoid.2568

Zoid.2568

Yeah i would use it in Dungeons/Fractals/WvWvW. Maybe Team Arena.
It seems tanky and supportish.

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Posted by: Zoid.2568

Zoid.2568

I ran venomshare in pve for a bit and found it works something like this.
The worst your party is, the better the spec is and vice versa.
Its amazing sustain and adds a good amount of party heals but the dmg is meh at best. If the party is doing fine then really its just a loss in DPS.

You can lay down smoke screens and such. Depends on what weapons and combinations you use.

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Posted by: MyCondolences.8172

MyCondolences.8172

Yeah i would use it in Dungeons/Fractals/WvWvW. Maybe Team Arena.
It seems tanky and supportish.

Its very tanky, i had a mix of dire/settler and shaman’s. But i found when puging that i always ended up with another healer or atleast pseudo healer in the party meaning instead of dishing out DPS i was healing ppl that didnt really need to be healed.

Never the less its a really fun build and if it was more viable i’d definitely run it over the typical serker set. If you can get in a role as a designated healer for your party then its a good build others your basically a waste of a party member.

I ran venomshare in pve for a bit and found it works something like this.
The worst your party is, the better the spec is and vice versa.
Its amazing sustain and adds a good amount of party heals but the dmg is meh at best. If the party is doing fine then really its just a loss in DPS.

You can lay down smoke screens and such. Depends on what weapons and combinations you use.

You can just as easily use them in a DPS build. You actually have more free slots for utilities although you probably wouldnt mind wasting the initiative as much if you were aiming for DPS.

(edited by MyCondolences.8172)

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Posted by: Zoid.2568

Zoid.2568

I ran venomshare in pve for a bit and found it works something like this.
The worst your party is, the better the spec is and vice versa.
Its amazing sustain and adds a good amount of party heals but the dmg is meh at best. If the party is doing fine then really its just a loss in DPS.

You can lay down smoke screens and such. Depends on what weapons and combinations you use.

You can just as easily use them in a DPS build. You actually have more free slots for utilities although you probably wouldnt mind wasting the initiative as much if you were aiming for DPS.

If you want dps you don’t go with shareable venoms and healing. I have a good venom dps build, i use it for PvP* though. If you want venoms with heal and share them with your party, then it would be best to go a tankish/supportish build and not aim for dps.

I’d recommend 0/0/30/10/30 for a tank/support build. Dagger/Pistol and Either Sword/Dagger or Shortbow. This would be a Venom/Steal build.

Edit: something like this http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQRAsY4ankEFaaqJmmwfaig7RSh6T9eQ2xa2uCcF-jQwA1xioxCA-e

(edited by Zoid.2568)

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Posted by: Manijin.3428

Manijin.3428

I’ve actually done something similar to this on my thief, but rather than capitalize on the condi-portion of the build, I’m focusing on the leeching portion by upping direct damage. I’m running 30/10/30 for the extra precision & crit damage, Knights gear and Trinkets with Valkerie jewels throughout (Gets me up to about 14.5k health), and I’m pretty pleased. Throwing out an average of 6 stacks of might to the group isn’t bad, plus my friend and I have learned how to chain stun with Basilisk effectively, which is just great.

I don’t do much damage with the condi’s, but they do enough damage when stacked by 5 people. Heck, they might do more if my allies are running a bit of condition damage. I’ve found it to be tanky for a thief, still do enough damage for me to care about, and overall just fun to play. YMMV, though. Oh, and I use Sword/Dagger. Big no-no in PvE, but it’s our only cleave weapon, and I main a warrior, so I’m somewhat addicted to built-in melee cleave.