Guild Wars 2

I’m finding that dagger/pistol is a lot easier to use than Sword/Dagger. Each have their own strengths as weaknesses, but Sword/dagger if played right (which I am working on) is much better in my opinion. It is more efficient at stealth, it does more continuous damage, and has great mobility.

And you’re a new thief?

sword/dagger has mobility, substained damage and control where d/p has high burst damage and abit more stealth.

renss.5764:

sword/dagger has mobility, substained damage and control where d/p has high burst damage and abit more stealth.

d/p has burst? what? you mean chain heartseeker?

I imagine he means ’’new’’ as new to youtube and new to making thief video’s not a ’’new’’ thief completely otherwise he wouldn’t have bolt, ill give you feedback after lunch, as i’m at work atm

if your hs hits someone while leaping over the powder, it doesn’t reveal you (which is pretty abnormal) so u can land that Bs.

iNaddict.8021:

renss.5764:

sword/dagger has mobility, sustained damage and control where d/p has high burst damage and a bit more stealth.

d/p has burst? what? you mean chain heartseeker?

i think he’s referring to Backstab more than heartseeker chaining as you can chain stealth with black powders combo field, and gain a ton of control as it’s also a blind, its a patient playstyle, not a ‘’mwaaaaahhhaaa dead’’ playstyle. unless i have got mixed up ofcourse.

however once at and below 25% then of course, heartseeker will dish out some damage.

RedSpectrum.1975:

And you’re a new thief?

I started playing thief 3 weeks ago, I consider that new.

Definitely well played. The first good Sword/Dagger video that i’ve seen

bladie.5084:

if your hs hits someone while leaping over the powder, it doesn’t reveal you (which is pretty abnormal) so u can land that Bs.

That would only happen if they were stealthed prior to using the combination attack and is really how combination attacks are supposed to work you put the field down, you attack the enemy and you get the bonus for the combo from the attack, the fact that you don’t have to actually hit a target is technically the strange thing :P

Its the same way CnD is, you hit but you also gain stealth but if you CnD from stealth you get the revealed on the hit and don’t get the stealth afterwards

As for the video, nice to see other builds but its just another WvW video filled with full zerker GC’s dieing quick and uplevels for the most part with 1 or 2 actual proper fights.

Of course you played well but for the most part the enemies didn’t really do much themselves, engi spent a large portion of its time standing doing nothing and the 2 thieves started by burning shadow refuge rather than shutting you down with CC and burning you?

DrixTrix.7168:

iNaddict.8021:

renss.5764:

sword/dagger has mobility, sustained damage and control where d/p has high burst damage and a bit more stealth.

d/p has burst? what? you mean chain heartseeker?

i think he’s referring to Backstab more than heartseeker chaining as you can chain stealth with black powders combo field, and gain a ton of control as it’s also a blind, its a patient playstyle, not a ‘’mwaaaaahhhaaa dead’’ playstyle. unless i have got mixed up ofcourse.

however once at and below 25% then of course, heartseeker will dish out some damage.

The only burst i can think of is when you land HS (if they are low hp) after a combo field then BS.. that is rare in pvp situations… it is not reliable.. BS by itself, i wouldnt classify that as burst..

I still stand that as a thief. our only burst option needs mug (CnD to some extent too).. that kind of suck..

iNaddict.8021:

DrixTrix.7168:

iNaddict.8021:

renss.5764:

sword/dagger has mobility, sustained damage and control where d/p has high burst damage and a bit more stealth.

d/p has burst? what? you mean chain heartseeker?

i think he’s referring to Backstab more than heartseeker chaining as you can chain stealth with black powders combo field, and gain a ton of control as it’s also a blind, its a patient playstyle, not a ‘’mwaaaaahhhaaa dead’’ playstyle. unless i have got mixed up ofcourse.

however once at and below 25% then of course, heartseeker will dish out some damage.

The only burst i can think of is when you land HS (if they are low hp) after a combo field then BS.. that is rare in pvp situations… it is not reliable.. BS by itself, i wouldnt classify that as burst..

I still stand that as a thief. our only burst option needs mug (CnD to some extent too).. that kind of suck..

Backstab itself is actually really quite low damage for a big hitter, it has a coefficient of around 2.4 and is usable at best every 4 seconds, thats not a lot considering warrior axe auto-attack skill are a total coefficient of 4.9 with the last part of the chain being a higher coefficient than backstab on its own and cycles every 3.6 seconds, heck even a necromancer dagger autoattack chain is 2.8 coefficient and a much faster cycle rate, so backstab by itself far from powerful.

Technically out of the mug+CnD+BS burst chain the majority of the damage is potentially coming from the mug+CnD (totally 3.0 coefficient), the exceptions would be for low crit rate builds utilizing hidden killer and +crit damage armour which of course means overall the damage is going to be much lower.

You’re finally growing up! I’m so proud of you son

Issues.5789:

You’re finally growing up! I’m so proud of you son

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Nice 0 30 30 10 0 build
What gear and upgrade components u use?

iSonik.9542:

Nice 0 30 30 10 0 build
What gear and upgrade components u use?

Pretty much full berserker with Ruby orb

That regen on stealth seems pretty OP

That regen on stealth seems pretty OP

Maybe only with d/p since you can stealth and stay in stealth as long as you want, but with other weapon sets this is less viable.

wish u didnt show this :/ i run the same but i run mesmer runes and sigil of paralyzation.. ive tried a build where i have 30 in trickery. 20 in SA 20 in ACRO you can run intial strike 1 intiative per skil 1 hit at 7% chance…. and also same the rest as urs but also thrill of crime and sleight of hand. with the food and armor/accs. you get amazing crit dmg still and also get about 3.5 sec stun from tactical 1.5 secs from steal. and run d/p 2ndary as you do …..head shot can do 1 sec stun. so with the intiative regen u can really own every heal. big skill etc. very powerful if run right. can be a lil weaker if run by a bad player.