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Posted by: Woaden.9425

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Hello all. Since acquiring my ‘end-game’ weapon skins of Whisperblade and Lyss, I’ve been obsessed with S/P.

I’ve tried all the previous S/P builds, and tho all work well, and revolve around Sword#2 for positioning, I also needed that extra dodge from feline grace. What can I say, I’m addicted to acrobatics. Please don’t judge!

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A friend of mine runs the traditional panic strike, and it’s certainly potent! He even goes so far as to include +power/condi duration food, and all those immobs last FOREVER. I may also incorporate that food (or the +condi duration/lifesteal), but for now I use prec/lifesteal.

Hope you enjoy my short video.

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Posted by: FrownyClown.8402

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Nice build. seems more like a build you would use in duels though.


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Posted by: mango.9267

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The build you linked has weapons set to S/D. I realize that that was probably an accident, but in all honesty, this seems to play very much like an S/D build.

Have you considered dropping devourer venom and picking up signet of agility for 60026? You lose feline grace, but you compensate with higher crit chance, on demand double dodge, and better condi management. In addition, it gives you the option of taking improvisation for extra sustain or combined training for an extra 5% damage modifier. And of course panic strike is absolutely deadly when it proc’s.

Even if you choose feline grace over panic strike, I still feel you could do just as well, if not better using 50036, picking up either improvisation or combined training. The 10% damage modifier is just as easy to maintain, you have higher base power, and your immobilizes last longer. It really doesn’t seem like pain response is doing much work for you, since you’re clearing with generosity/purity and sword 2.

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Posted by: Woaden.9425

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Have you considered dropping devourer venom and picking up signet of agility for 60026?
It really doesn’t seem like pain response is doing much work for you, since you’re clearing with generosity/purity and sword 2.

I have, didn’t like it as much. I do miss pain response, and prefer it.

This build is also about no stealth and mobility. So swift on evade+feline grace+pack runes is necessary for what I am trying to do, I feel.

This build is very much like a s/d build, if 20606 is very much like a s/d. Yet you have shown that it works well in d/d. You certainly had your detractors. I think people get too stuck on “this point spread or that trait or this util is only for X build”.

I do think that 50036 works, and works well, to your point. Improv is fantastic, and that extra power is great. I just prefer the extra vit, boon duration, dodge, swift, regen, and condi clear.

If going 6xxx6, I think 60206 with SR/BP utils and maybe even HiS heal would be great, or maybe 60026 as you say, but then these are different builds, and not what I intended. I think S/P exists perfectly fine in this point spread.

Anyhow, thats part of the point of course, to have a discussion on these things! My opinion is that, after having tried all the spreads, I like this one.

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Posted by: MightyMicah.7451

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Nice video! You made excellent use of your dodges.

By the way, you on SOS? Cause I’m pretty I just roamed with you the other day and saw you online today not half an hour ago.

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Posted by: Woaden.9425

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Hi MM, thanks. Ya I’m on SoS, I’ve fought with you a few times!

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Posted by: mango.9267

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Anyhow, thats part of the point of course, to have a discussion on these things! My opinion is that, after having tried all the spreads, I like this one.

Fair enough. The build seems more than viable, and if it works for you, then more power to you.

I’ve been meaning to ask, though, in the case of double proc on generosity/purity, which one takes priority?

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Can’t believe someone are so "cool" to be killed in duel from shortbow...

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Posted by: Maugetarr.6823

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Have you considered dropping devourer venom and picking up signet of agility for 60026?
It really doesn’t seem like pain response is doing much work for you, since you’re clearing with generosity/purity and sword 2.

I have, didn’t like it as much. I do miss pain response, and prefer it.

This build is also about no stealth and mobility. So swift on evade+feline grace+pack runes is necessary for what I am trying to do, I feel.

This build is very much like a s/d build, if 20606 is very much like a s/d. Yet you have shown that it works well in d/d. You certainly had your detractors. I think people get too stuck on “this point spread or that trait or this util is only for X build”.

I do think that 50036 works, and works well, to your point. Improv is fantastic, and that extra power is great. I just prefer the extra vit, boon duration, dodge, swift, regen, and condi clear.

If going 6xxx6, I think 60206 with SR/BP utils and maybe even HiS heal would be great, or maybe 60026 as you say, but then these are different builds, and not what I intended. I think S/P exists perfectly fine in this point spread.

Anyhow, thats part of the point of course, to have a discussion on these things! My opinion is that, after having tried all the spreads, I like this one.

5/0/0/3/6 is a really fun setup. I don’t take improvisation, but switch between dagger training and combined training depending on the weaponset I use.

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Posted by: Jayden Ennok.3687

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Nice video as always.

The power/lifesteal and +% condi duration foods – not sure if it’s really worth getting them if you don’t use panic strike, since it takes a while to grind Try Top to buy the recipes and it is not exactly cheap to craft either (at least back when I crafted some).

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Posted by: MightyMicah.7451

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Hi MM, thanks. Ya I’m on SoS, I’ve fought with you a few times!

Excellent! Looking forward to more of it in the future. I didn’t realize you were so pro

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