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Posted by: Flux Qemist.6712

Flux Qemist.6712

Hi boys n girls,
I’m looking for a thief build – one in particular that comes to mind is a daze, burst evade/blind style build that I’ve been encountering a lot in WvW.
If you can link a build editor to show me the gear/weapon setup that would be great.
Cheers
BRS

P.S. any hints and tips on how to play i.e. combinations/rotations etc would also be greatly appreciated (….. other than 2222 lol) as I’ve never used my thief before.

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Posted by: caveman.5840

caveman.5840

lol it is not a good time to start look forward to nerf nerf nerf everyone cries every time u kill them :S

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Posted by: Flux Qemist.6712

Flux Qemist.6712

lol it is not a good time to start look forward to nerf nerf nerf everyone cries every time u kill them :S

I main is an ele – been there done/suffered that.

My point still stands as I’d like to learn and play another challenging class mechanic (it was going to be mesmer but the vast number of PU players cheesed it up too much for my liking).

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Posted by: Oghier.7419

Oghier.7419

Daze/ Burst/ Evade/ Blind is a lot to ask for, and you probably can’t get them all in one build:

- There are two sources of Daze. You can go 30 points in Trickery for a Daze on Steal trait (powerful), or you can go Sword/ Dagger, which has a daze when attacking from behind in stealth

- Burst is mostly D/D, where Cloak and Dagger followed by Backstab provide the big numbers. For even more burst, go 10 in Deadly Arts for Mug. You steal to the target, CnD and Backstab, packing three chunks of damage into a very short period of time. You really need 30 points in Critical Arts for a power/ precision burst spec

- Evade is available, but it requires investment in the Acrobatics tree. 15 points gives you 3 dodges and a bit of vigor. You can also use Withdraw as your heal, which is recommended for most non-stealth specs

- Blind can be achieved several ways, either from sword mainhand attacking from stealth or from a pistol offhand. The latter is very powerful in PvE or for soloing camps in WvW

- None of the above touches the Shadow Arts tree, which is probably our best tree for WvW. That is where our best heals, condition clears and escapability lie, along with easy access to AoE blinds

Thief builds can do all those things you wanted, but not all at once. Unless you are doing a condition build, the basic rule is to start with 30 in Critical Arts, then build the rest according to your goals and weaponsets.

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Posted by: Dahkeus.8243

Dahkeus.8243

I have yet to see a WvW build I like better than the one Yishis runs:

It’s only gotten better since the Dec 10th patch.

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Posted by: Thorp.7982

Thorp.7982

Here are a few great WvW Thief players to give you an idea of different options as far as weapons and builds/playstyle go:

Xeviel, Ehmry Bay — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA78Ln-JlhM
I Am Mugi, Northern Shiverpeaks-- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKX_FoT2VVo
Lychon, Crystal Desert — http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8kohq_aSOKE

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Posted by: sierras.6297

sierras.6297

You would probably enjoy the condition p/d build.
Full dire armor, dire weapons, with Sigil of Malice and Sigil of Bursting.
Run traits 0/0/30/20/20 with full chryscola trinkets. You should get about 2.7k toughness, 21k health, and 1500 condi damage, more if you use foods. I rarely die. It has to be more than 5 people to kill me without me killing 1-3 people. I’ve never actually accomplished more than a 1v3 but I believe it’s possible, if you fight against the right organization of enemies. Very good build and is able to solo champs, I would know, I’ve soloed about 12.

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Posted by: Thorp.7982

Thorp.7982

Don’t play a condition Thief unless you like being useless in groups and never killing decent players.

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Posted by: Saturn.6591

Saturn.6591

Don’t play a condition Thief unless you like being useless in groups and never killing decent players.

I’ve been bursted down with conditions by P/D-thieves before. Like, from 100% to 0% HP in around 7 seconds (or less). Sometimes I didn’t even get to use my cleanse fast enough, and sometimes I did but it didn’t help much. And sometimes I managed to run away.

Don’t even get me started about P/D-thieves using venomshare with thieves guild. That’s more cheesy than Mesmer PU ever was, haha. ^^

That being said, I’m stalking this topic because I’m still trying to find out what build I should go for with my Thief.