Guild Wars 2

I recently finished S2, and became very jealous of Caithe’s moveset. Her elite is an 8s stealth that doesn’t reveal you when you attack, and while active, backstab also teleports you to your target. Anyone else really wishing for an elite stealth skill right now? I can already imagine the rage.

I’d be ok with another elite but not to that extreme though (I played the S2 as well, I know it was fun with auto backstabs).

Maybe a type of stealth that also removes revealed effects and enhances our next stealth attack? (teleport + extra damage backstab, increased condition duration for pistol and shortbow, stability on sword).

wait to you see revenants turning into shiro i can already imagine the theif rage

Caithe is OP simply reading that statement “Her elite is an 8s stealth that doesn’t reveal you when you attack

So for 8 seconds you could attack someone whilst being totally stealthed is madness. Unless you typed that wrong and meant something else.. but that is just off the rails OP.

I wouldn’t mind a new elite skills. Current ones are stale/boring. I liked one of NinjaEd.3946’s points; the stability on sword is interesting… but that’s coming from someone who absolutely loved the S/D playstyle.. until ANet came along and butchered it. Sigh.

Zephyra.4709:

Caithe is OP simply reading that statement “Her elite is an 8s stealth that doesn’t reveal you when you attack

So for 8 seconds you could attack someone whilst being totally stealthed is madness. Unless you typed that wrong and meant something else.. but that is just off the rails OP.

You should have read the rest of the sentence. It also mentions that her “backstab” also shadowsteps you from like 1200 range away to your target. And since it doesn’t reveal, it’s massively enjoyable :p

Although I think the most OP thing in her toolset is the fact the 3rd dagger autoattack chain skill applies basilisk venom.

Obviously most of her skills are OP and I don’t think we should get something that over the top. I would like some stealth elite though. Maybe 6s and removes reveal when cast? That could be interesting and provide a counter for sic ’em and lock on.

They should also make a crazy mode for PvP where everyone gets OP versions of their class abilities.

That’s why Caithe stole the Dragon Egg. Inside was a nerf for her abilities and she did not want anyone to get a hold of it, not us, not even the devs.

Caithe was made to faceroll on. I wonder how many Non thief players thought it was cool and amazingly OP to play a Thief during that story, only to make a Thief character and face the harsh reality and disappointment.

If you think beyond the obvious ridiculousness of this idea there is actually a really good idea in there. The thing is, thief doesn’t have a really good elite skill. Daggerstorm is very situational and the only decent thing it even has going for it is that it’s a reflect, but it’s on a very long cooldown. Thieves guild is not really that good and lacks any kind of enjoyment, and again on a huge cooldown. Basi venom is the only decent skill which is now nerfed in most scenarios due to the reduction in time paralyzed for each use and stone duration not stacking. What we could really use is an elite skill with some legitimate value and I think an elite with some kind of stealth and maybe an additional bonus would be pretty good with it. Obviously not something like attacking without reveal, but you get my point. Thief at this point really needs some ability to diversify builds and I think a new elite and a fix for the nerf to basi venom would help that some. Of course it won’t fix the disparity between d/p and every other set but that’s another issue of it’s own.

8s invis with no reveal would be broken like hell. Noway that would ever go into the game, nor do I want that.

It’s an elite, it wouldn’t be broken as hell really :o

Especially considering that with every patch, there’s more and more talents/traits to apply revealed on us, which would obviously override the elite here since the effect is that we do not get revealed for damaging stuff, not that we don’t ever get revealed.

But it might be too soon for that. In a year or two once everyone has it’s two “reveal thief” talents it’ll be the right time for such an elite.

Fun Fact: Caithe’s Elite skill in LS2 was actually an Elite Skill planned for the thief in development way back when, but was scrapped (Proof in the Discussion page in the following link, which predates GW2’s launch.)

http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Invisible_Stalker

stof.9341:

It’s an elite, it wouldn’t be broken as hell really :o

Especially considering that with every patch, there’s more and more talents/traits to apply revealed on us, which would obviously override the elite here since the effect is that we do not get revealed for damaging stuff, not that we don’t ever get revealed.

But it might be too soon for that. In a year or two once everyone has it’s two “reveal thief” talents it’ll be the right time for such an elite.

Erm… what? Wouldn’t be broken? You could get 32 backstabs off in those 8 seconds. 18k x 32 = A broken amount of dmg.

Numbers :o 8s might be too long for sure :p

Or maybe that elite stealth shouldn’t unlock the sneak attacks.

xXBurningEmberXx.6085:

stof.9341:

It’s an elite, it wouldn’t be broken as hell really :o

Especially considering that with every patch, there’s more and more talents/traits to apply revealed on us, which would obviously override the elite here since the effect is that we do not get revealed for damaging stuff, not that we don’t ever get revealed.

But it might be too soon for that. In a year or two once everyone has it’s two “reveal thief” talents it’ll be the right time for such an elite.

Erm… what? Wouldn’t be broken? You could get 32 backstabs off in those 8 seconds. 18k x 32 = A broken amount of dmg.

You people really need to stop exaggerating the damage from a backstab. Nobody hits 18k backstabs. In pvp I’m lucky if I even hit an 8k most of the time. In WvW an 11k backstab is kitten good, and I’ve mained thief since shortly after launch.

I approve this elite ability. It would still get owned by double endure pain and other immunities tho.

Haptic Repulse.9437:

Thief at this point really needs some ability to diversify builds and I think a new elite and a fix for the nerf to basi venom would help that some. Of course it won’t fix the disparity between d/p and every other set but that’s another issue of it’s own.

That won’t diversify builds, that will shoehorn all of you into it.

stof.9341:

Numbers :o 8s might be too long for sure :p

Or maybe that elite stealth shouldn’t unlock the sneak attacks.

There is no way in kitten to balance caithe’s elite for thief without stripping away all the elements that make it so attractive.

It’s a dream skill, maybe for april fools next year.

As clarification, this suggestion is a joke. I would like a new elite though. Maybe a signet (since we have other types already) that makes stealth last longer and the active removes revealed and stealths.