Nope. Sword has always been an awesome weapon.
Dagger = lowest skill floor thief weapon
Sword = highest skill ceiling thief weapon
The tooltip for sword autoattack has gone berserko…
and my actual attack numbers (pve) was 3.5k x 2, then crippling strike hitting 6.5k~7k with berserker gear and only 10 points in Deadly Arts…
Was there a hidden buff somewhere? or has it always been this powerful?
I know DPS wise its not THAT great as the autochain is quite slow, so its not much stronger than a pistol whip’s dps
My backstab does 1,000,000 damage to a bunny. So what? Stop posting numbers from killing lowbies…
Nope. Sword has always been an awesome weapon.
Dagger = lowest skill floor thief weapon
Sword = highest skill ceiling thief weapon
i el oh el’ed
anyroad. guardian virtues + sword = plain dagger auto
The tooltip for sword autoattack has gone berserko…
and my actual attack numbers (pve) was 3.5k x 2, then crippling strike hitting 6.5k~7k with berserker gear and only 10 points in Deadly Arts…
Was there a hidden buff somewhere? or has it always been this powerful?
I know DPS wise its not THAT great as the autochain is quite slow, so its not much stronger than a pistol whip’s dpsMy backstab does 1,000,000 damage to a bunny. So what? Stop posting numbers from killing lowbies…
Ok maybe i should have been clear on my target – the first time I noticed the damage was on a level 38 Fractal Run at the Bloomhunger boss fight a few days ago. I’m usually a Backstab spammer in PvE but during the month where Reveal got to 4s I started using sword, while it was good, I never noticed its damage going up to 7k on the 3rd hit of its autochain. Arah mobs took around the same damage…basically most enemies with nonexceptional toughness such as Lupi. Even against Lupi my damage was 2x higher than the DPS thief that soloed him awhile back and we have around the same spec…so thats what led me to think if it was a recent buff. If there isn’t, then there isnt. I guess it’s just the Signet buffs and Warrior Banner buff recently that made the damage so outstanding.
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you got buff’ed
ask your party why they gave you might n fury
you got buff’ed
ask your party why they gave you might n fury
Um first of all before getting all witty up in here… Fury only gives me more crit chance. So my peak numbers aka Crit would not change from Fury. I’d take some time and study what boons do.
I specifically paid attention to my boons and their conditions, I had no bloodlust stacks, barely any might stacks, like 3 or something, and enemy had around 5 vulnerability stacks average from our warrior’s rending strike passive.
Maybe I just never paid attention to it’s autoattack figures. You’ve all kindly answered my question of it being a buff or not. much appreciated.
might+vulnerability+critical hit+traits+food+nourishment. this is your response
I call BS! A thief in level 38 fractals? It’s not possible!
yes, i am joking around
The tooltip for sword autoattack has gone berserko…
and my actual attack numbers (pve) was 3.5k x 2, then crippling strike hitting 6.5k~7k with berserker gear and only 10 points in Deadly Arts…
Was there a hidden buff somewhere? or has it always been this powerful?
I know DPS wise its not THAT great as the autochain is quite slow, so its not much stronger than a pistol whip’s dpsMy backstab does 1,000,000 damage to a bunny. So what? Stop posting numbers from killing lowbies…
yeah sorry it usually does like 1.5k per attack and 3500 max on 3rd. realistically with a decent bersker build and 15k hp to make it playable. if running a 0 30 20 20 0 or of sorts…its more like 1200 1200 2700 which zerk geawr. and im willing to say almost half of auto attacks miss if not sometimes more due to the incredibly slow speed of them. they are so slow you could dodge the first strike then roll dodge again on the 2nd and again on the 3rd. :P
Sword auto-attack is awesome. Pair it with a dagger for WvW or a pistol for PvE. Go 30 in SA for WvW and 25 in trickery for PvE and you’ll hit like a truck. That extra 1% damage per initiative is great in PvE.
I can see 1.5k to 2k for auto1 and auto2, auto 3 sits around 3.5k to 4k with Executioner traited. Flanking/Larcenous does decent damage also, little higher than the 3rd auto attack. Don’t think auto got buffed but I have seen some very high numbers while running dungeons lately that don’t make sense compared to the active boons/conditions.
Blood~
@blood. ur right it didnt get buffed. he may have gotten his numbers full zerk with stacks of might/bloodlust and enemy boss had 25 stacks of vulern etc etc etc . somethign of that nature yeah. but thats not a good place to base a “omg sword is godly dmg” type of post :P
The tooltip for sword autoattack has gone berserko…
and my actual attack numbers (pve) was 3.5k x 2, then crippling strike hitting 6.5k~7k with berserker gear and only 10 points in Deadly Arts…
Was there a hidden buff somewhere? or has it always been this powerful?
I know DPS wise its not THAT great as the autochain is quite slow, so its not much stronger than a pistol whip’s dpsMy backstab does 1,000,000 damage to a bunny. So what? Stop posting numbers from killing lowbies…
yeah sorry it usually does like 1.5k per attack and 3500 max on 3rd. realistically with a decent bersker build and 15k hp to make it playable. if running a 0 30 20 20 0 or of sorts…its more like 1200 1200 2700 which zerk geawr. and im willing to say almost half of auto attacks miss if not sometimes more due to the incredibly slow speed of them. they are so slow you could dodge the first strike then roll dodge again on the 2nd and again on the 3rd. :P
I was talking PvE. I’m switching around often between 20 30 10 10 0 and 10 30 20 10 0 for fractals and dungeons. 3.5k is more like my first 2 hits…and 7k is my 3rd. Arah, Fractals, etc…
Your figures were pretty dead on for PvP though.
Either way, even at 3.5k x 2 and 7k, that’s only 14k per chain. DPS wise it’s still lower than Backstab combo and slightly higher than Pistol Whip. I just haven’t been paying attention to Sword autoattacks thats all as I used sword only situationally for its utilities. The tooltip damage should have been enough to tell me the 3rd hit hits like a truck.
Well the first two strikes of the sword AA chain are equivalent (actually very slightly lower) to that of the last two strikes of the dagger AA.
The final strike is only a bit lower than that of CnD/Mug/HS at 50%
However backstab with its 2.4 rear coefficient on top of the CnD that your generally going to use will offer about 30% more damage (total of 3.9 compared to swords total of 2.9)
In the same way a full pistol whip ends up with a coefficient of 3.42 so it would do more maximum damage (though lower crit rate would put sword ahead).
Of course both those have long reuse times and potentially substantial costs compared to the Auto Attack.
Overall though sword auto attack is pretty nice, though it has to be really due to the lower damage out put of its actual skills compared to other weapon sets (dual skill generally ends up being the only real damage source out of the set)
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