Guild Wars 2

Please give us more swiftness.

We are suppost to be the most mobile class, and signet of shadows has been burned into my utility slot ‘2’ for a good while now.

I think he wants +100% movement speed, and will probably ask for +200% base damage next. How dare someone run from you when you jump them at the most inopportune times! Everyone should be a free kill, right?

Get 50% speed in stealth and go “perma stealthing” around… =P
All those poor critters are great CnD fodder…

Most mesmers would kill for a signet like that.

Be happy.

I would also love more access to swiftness. I too tire of having signet of shadows permanently on my hotbar. However there are some workarounds.

1. As another said, 50% move speed in stealth. A good alternative for a stealth-heavy build. C/D rabbits n critters in WvW and get the speed buff without entering combat. Confuse your enemies by moving slowly when visible but at an unanticipated speed when they cannot see you.

2. Replace signet of shadows with another utility prior to combat. Clunky. Annoying. But it works.

3. Another poster mentioned this a while ago: Withdraw + centaur runes. Sounds cr@p but it’s rather good. Replace signet of shadows with blinding powder for the instant stealth you lose by dropping hide in shadows and you get the following useful stats:
10sec swiftness on heal
Around 160 power
20% swiftness uptime
Spamming withdraw when it comes up is almost enough for perma swiftness. Add in feline grace and some other key traits and you can stack your swiftness past 20secs.

Running this now and enjoying it immensely.

Sarrow.2785:

I would also love more access to swiftness. I too tire of having signet of shadows permanently on my hotbar. However there are some workarounds.

1. As another said, 50% move speed in stealth. A good alternative for a stealth-heavy build. C/D rabbits n critters in WvW and get the speed buff without entering combat. Confuse your enemies by moving slowly when visible but at an unanticipated speed when they cannot see you.

2. Replace signet of shadows with another utility prior to combat. Clunky. Annoying. But it works.

3. Another poster mentioned this a while ago: Withdraw + centaur runes. Sounds cr@p but it’s rather good. Replace signet of shadows with blinding powder for the instant stealth you lose by dropping hide in shadows and you get the following useful stats:
10sec swiftness on heal
Around 160 power
20% swiftness uptime
Spamming withdraw when it comes up is almost enough for perma swiftness. Add in feline grace and some other key traits and you can stack your swiftness past 20secs.

Running this now and enjoying it immensely.

1. 33% in stealth, yes its good, but getting to the target to hit them is the hardest part. Also not every build is stealth.

2. Bad idea.

3. LoLoLoL anyone who uses that in pvp is a joke. Its clunky and stupid. Might as well just stick to using SoS :P

Daecollo.9578:

3. LoLoLoL anyone who uses that in pvp is a joke. Its clunky and stupid. Might as well just stick to using SoS :P

Let me reinforce this part:

“Sounds cr@p but it’s rather good.”

Try it.

I don’t even us SoS anymore and I am super mobile.

Get swiftness on evade and fleet shadow…

I don’t even care for swiftness anymore. It’s like a drug: once you’re used to it, it’s hard to go back. I have swiftness on dodge but I rarely use it.

The problem with swiftness is that everyone thinks they’re entitled to it without having to make any tradeoffs.

You want 100% swiftness? Runes of the centaur and 5 points in acrobatics. That’s much better than what most other classes have to do, especially since theifs already have a 25% run sig.

Dahkeus.8243:

The problem with swiftness is that everyone thinks they’re entitled to it without having to make any tradeoffs.

You want 100% swiftness? Runes of the centaur and 5 points in acrobatics. That’s much better than what most other classes have to do, especially since theifs already have a 25% run sig.

Like what other classes? Mesmer? They don’t really need swiftness that much, most of there attacks and spells are ranged. Movement speed doesn’t matter much when moving backwards and kiting.

Daecollo.9578:

Dahkeus.8243:

The problem with swiftness is that everyone thinks they’re entitled to it without having to make any tradeoffs.

You want 100% swiftness? Runes of the centaur and 5 points in acrobatics. That’s much better than what most other classes have to do, especially since theifs already have a 25% run sig.

Like what other classes? Mesmer? They don’t really need swiftness that much, most of there attacks and spells are ranged. Movement speed doesn’t matter much when moving backwards and kiting.

Wait…are you arguing for swiftness to benefit combat? Since when were thieves lacking in combat mobility???

I’m talking about swiftness as a method of getting from point a to point b in a map quickly.

Also, let’s take a moment to just look at this quote again:

Daecollo.9578:

Movement speed doesn’t matter much when moving backwards and kiting.

That’s a very special quote. Let’s look at it one more time:

Daecollo.9578:

Movement speed doesn’t matter much when moving backwards and kiting.

Movement speed doesn’t matter for kiting…yea…I don’t even know where to start with that, lol.

Daecollo.9578:

We are suppost to be the most mobile class.

No we are not. Warrior and ele are supposed to be more mobile, and they also are. This is fair considering they have no pets and no stealth.

BlackBeard.2873:

I think he wants +100% movement speed, and will probably ask for +200% base damage next. How dare someone run from you when you jump them at the most inopportune times! Everyone should be a free kill, right?

It’s Daecollo. If you’re still taking him seriously you haven’t been around long enough.

PS: It’s “supposed”. You’ve spelled that word wrong every single time I’ve seen you use it.

Dude, we can get swiftness from dodging, and with more traits we can dodge almost infinitely. We can also get 50% movement speed in stealth, so I really doesn’t see the problem here. But I would really like some more mobility though..