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Posted by: Jrunyon.3012

Jrunyon.3012

Is the reason for the cast time on inf return. Seriously. Is it just to make us annoyed every time we use it?

First you take out the stunbreak functionality, now there’s a cast time. I feel really bad for s/p thieves, which i was playing recently until I realized there’s no hope left for it.

Really Anet, you should be promoting different builds rather than continuing to promote the d/d backstab cheese that i refuse to sink to.

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Posted by: jonwar.4186

jonwar.4186

thats whats going to happen probably, I believe we’ll see a big rebirth with dagger dagger and still cry babies will cry.

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Posted by: RedSpectrum.1975

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I don’t mind a DD rebirth. I actually liked its feel more and it felt more rewarding to me to win with that set. Esp when fighting very tanky classes. And how is DD cheese but not DP? DP can stealth, whenever it wants, gap close, interrupt, blind. All DD can do is gap close, stealth off of targets, cripple, and evade while giving bleeding, which is rarely used for a stealth build, as is dancing dagger so that makes it 3 of the 5 that are used, so DD belittles itself while DP does all DD can and more.

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Posted by: Jrunyon.3012

Jrunyon.3012

And how is DD cheese but not DP? DP can stealth, whenever it wants, gap close, interrupt, blind.

Never did I say d/p wasn’t cheese as well. I welcome the fall of that particular perma-stealth playstyle.

This thread is about s/x and the nerfs that seem to always be directed at it.

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Posted by: RedSpectrum.1975

RedSpectrum.1975

And how is DD cheese but not DP? DP can stealth, whenever it wants, gap close, interrupt, blind.

Never did I say d/p wasn’t cheese as well. I welcome the fall of that particular perma-stealth playstyle.

This thread is about s/x and the nerfs that seem to always be directed at it.

I must have missed the s/x part, but I did catch only s/p which made it appear like you only cared for your own specific build. Irregardless, I too welcome the loss of perma stealth but am worried about what else may be acquired.

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Posted by: Stx.4857

Stx.4857

I cannot phathom why they thought sword builds were in need of a greater nerf after the Larcenous Strike nerf. S/D is officially dead in tpvp if this change goes through.

D/D is a fun build and in my opinion takes greater skill to pull of compared to D/P and P/D… but I don’t want to feel forced to play it.

I can’t honestly see anyone using sword in pvp after this.

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Posted by: Master of Timespace.2548

Master of Timespace.2548

And how is DD cheese but not DP? DP can stealth, whenever it wants, gap close, interrupt, blind.

Never did I say d/p wasn’t cheese as well. I welcome the fall of that particular perma-stealth playstyle.

This thread is about s/x and the nerfs that seem to always be directed at it.

s/d is a lot more overpowered than the perma stealth cheese ever was. Perma stealth is extremely annoying troll / 1vX build for WvW, but s/d is one of the main reasons why elementalist and mesmer almost completly dropped out of competitive tpvp meta.

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Posted by: avilo.1942

avilo.1942

I just feel sorry for the Thieves that got Legendary swords on their thieves. maybe between now and the next patch anet will get it through their head that infiltrator’s strike/shadow return don’t need any more nerfs.

Let alone the thief class.

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Posted by: Azraelle.1683

Azraelle.1683

I don’t mind a DD rebirth. I actually liked its feel more and it felt more rewarding to me to win with that set. Esp when fighting very tanky classes. And how is DD cheese but not DP? DP can stealth, whenever it wants, gap close, interrupt, blind. All DD can do is gap close, stealth off of targets, cripple, and evade while giving bleeding, which is rarely used for a stealth build, as is dancing dagger so that makes it 3 of the 5 that are used, so DD belittles itself while DP does all DD can and more.

I don’t want to see more useless d/d thieves. D/d is broken, 2 of it’s skills are absolutely useless. D/p is simply better in every aspect.

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Posted by: Azraelle.1683

Azraelle.1683

And how is DD cheese but not DP? DP can stealth, whenever it wants, gap close, interrupt, blind.

Never did I say d/p wasn’t cheese as well. I welcome the fall of that particular perma-stealth playstyle.

This thread is about s/x and the nerfs that seem to always be directed at it.

s/d is a lot more overpowered than the perma stealth cheese ever was. Perma stealth is extremely annoying troll / 1vX build for WvW, but s/d is one of the main reasons why elementalist and mesmer almost completly dropped out of competitive tpvp meta.

Well i hope to see more eles again. Arena should have nerfed s/d long time ago because it’s simply not fair to make one weapon set THAT powerful.

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Posted by: Doggie.3184

Doggie.3184

I cannot phathom why they thought sword builds were in need of a greater nerf after the Larcenous Strike nerf. S/D is officially dead in tpvp if this change goes through.

D/D is a fun build and in my opinion takes greater skill to pull of compared to D/P and P/D… but I don’t want to feel forced to play it.

I can’t honestly see anyone using sword in pvp after this.

I already switched back to boring D/D D/P full GC gimmick in spvp. Funny thing is first match I used it someone insulted me in /say after I killed them. ;/ Hopefully the time I’m done with everyone they start missing when I was S/D and always visible. Eventually I got bored though and finished my Glory grind on my Warrior doing 4 wins in a row with 0 deaths.

I really don’t want to switch back to Dagger in wvw and pve though. It’s just so boring now, I been using it forever and having more fun with sword nowadays.

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Posted by: Stx.4857

Stx.4857

I have a Bolt and I honestly feel cheated… (maybe a bit dramatic these changes are no where near final)…

I would trade that for an Incinerator in a heartbeat.

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

Straegen.2938

D/D has been the exclamation mark (great for finishing an opponent) for a lot of builds. I don’t think it really ever left. I have been playing mine non-stop for a year now. I like that it requires getting in close with limited stealth to dish out its true power.

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