Guild Wars 2

So this is kinda a QQ fest on my part.

I’m top Ruby right now, on a strong pull to Diamond. I’m doing great almost every match, minus being hard focused by Condi Rev’s with nothing better to do, and dying to Dragon Hunter traps that I don’t expect.

The thing that irritates me the most is that people CONSTANTLY cry about having me on their team. Whether I’m pulling 100 points or 300 points, they will find a reason. I line up my burst correctly, I can 1v1 almost all classes pretty effectively, and I do my job as a Thief to the best of my ability. I don’t deserve to be treated like garbage..

I decided to head out and do some PvE, after dropping to Ruby 2 from Ruby 4. I’m getting 1 shot by most mobs, and have to rely on my shortbow more than my actual main weapons, or I’ll die. I don’t know if this is intentional, but Thief just feels really.. Really weak right now in PvE..

I tried jumping in on some Raids, and was denied all the way up until my Guild decided to do the first boss for fun. Nobody wants a Thief on their Raid Team because we don’t do enough “damage”. I ended up doing Fractals, and then kinda gave in on that too after I realized everything I was doing was being trumped by the Rev’s.

It’s slightly depressing, and I don’t want to give up Thief, but I’m feeling like Areanet is forcing us away from it, and onto Rev.

Gecko.1962:

So this is kinda a QQ fest on my part.

I’m top Ruby right now, on a strong pull to Diamond. I’m doing great almost every match, minus being hard focused by Condi Rev’s with nothing better to do, and dying to Dragon Hunter traps that I don’t expect.

The thing that irritates me the most is that people CONSTANTLY cry about having me on their team. Whether I’m pulling 100 points or 300 points, they will find a reason. I line up my burst correctly, I can 1v1 almost all classes pretty effectively, and I do my job as a Thief to the best of my ability. I don’t deserve to be treated like garbage..

I decided to head out and do some PvE, after dropping to Ruby 2 from Ruby 4. I’m getting 1 shot by most mobs, and have to rely on my shortbow more than my actual main weapons, or I’ll die. I don’t know if this is intentional, but Thief just feels really.. Really weak right now in PvE..

I tried jumping in on some Raids, and was denied all the way up until my Guild decided to do the first boss for fun. Nobody wants a Thief on their Raid Team because we don’t do enough “damage”. I ended up doing Fractals, and then kinda gave in on that too after I realized everything I was doing was being trumped by the Rev’s.

It’s slightly depressing, and I don’t want to give up Thief, but I’m feeling like Areanet is forcing us away from it, and onto Rev.

I think the only solution for PvP is to turn off all chat, including Team chat, because your own team will troll you harder than the opponent. If you know what to do in PvP (and it sounds like you do) then Team chat becomes superfluous.

As far as raids/dungeons and what not go, you might get accepted if your a venom-sharing goon? Might.

Unfortunately we thieves will continue to get plenty of hate until a) Anet brings some of the cheese classes under control, and b) thieves get a real rework.

Until then, we play for love of the class I guess. If we ever do get buffed, then we will start owning again because of all these hundred of hours playing a weak class make us better.

1. pvp: turn off chat for own sanity
2. pve: i just roll with sp through it, didn’t have much issue so far
3. raids: just reroll man. 99% of raid groups would never invite you. Thief just lacks group support.

that baby stealing dingo.7216:

Gecko.1962:

So this is kinda a QQ fest on my part.

I’m top Ruby right now, on a strong pull to Diamond. I’m doing great almost every match, minus being hard focused by Condi Rev’s with nothing better to do, and dying to Dragon Hunter traps that I don’t expect.

The thing that irritates me the most is that people CONSTANTLY cry about having me on their team. Whether I’m pulling 100 points or 300 points, they will find a reason. I line up my burst correctly, I can 1v1 almost all classes pretty effectively, and I do my job as a Thief to the best of my ability. I don’t deserve to be treated like garbage..

I decided to head out and do some PvE, after dropping to Ruby 2 from Ruby 4. I’m getting 1 shot by most mobs, and have to rely on my shortbow more than my actual main weapons, or I’ll die. I don’t know if this is intentional, but Thief just feels really.. Really weak right now in PvE..

I tried jumping in on some Raids, and was denied all the way up until my Guild decided to do the first boss for fun. Nobody wants a Thief on their Raid Team because we don’t do enough “damage”. I ended up doing Fractals, and then kinda gave in on that too after I realized everything I was doing was being trumped by the Rev’s.

It’s slightly depressing, and I don’t want to give up Thief, but I’m feeling like Areanet is forcing us away from it, and onto Rev.

I think the only solution for PvP is to turn off all chat, including Team chat, because your own team will troll you harder than the opponent. If you know what to do in PvP (and it sounds like you do) then Team chat becomes superfluous.

As far as raids/dungeons and what not go, you might get accepted if your a venom-sharing goon? Might.

Unfortunately we thieves will continue to get plenty of hate until a) Anet brings some of the cheese classes under control, and b) thieves get a real rework.

Until then, we play for love of the class I guess. If we ever do get buffed, then we will start owning again because of all these hundred of hours playing a weak class make us better.

Your signature is my life’s story, and I really appreciate the advice. I’m going to take it to heart right away, and turn off my team chat. I didn’t think about it prior, I’ve taken to just going offline rather than just blocking it out, but I’ll give that a shot as well!

Thank you!

Gecko.1962:

that baby stealing dingo.7216:

Gecko.1962:

So this is kinda a QQ fest on my part.

I’m top Ruby right now, on a strong pull to Diamond. I’m doing great almost every match, minus being hard focused by Condi Rev’s with nothing better to do, and dying to Dragon Hunter traps that I don’t expect.

The thing that irritates me the most is that people CONSTANTLY cry about having me on their team. Whether I’m pulling 100 points or 300 points, they will find a reason. I line up my burst correctly, I can 1v1 almost all classes pretty effectively, and I do my job as a Thief to the best of my ability. I don’t deserve to be treated like garbage..

I decided to head out and do some PvE, after dropping to Ruby 2 from Ruby 4. I’m getting 1 shot by most mobs, and have to rely on my shortbow more than my actual main weapons, or I’ll die. I don’t know if this is intentional, but Thief just feels really.. Really weak right now in PvE..

I tried jumping in on some Raids, and was denied all the way up until my Guild decided to do the first boss for fun. Nobody wants a Thief on their Raid Team because we don’t do enough “damage”. I ended up doing Fractals, and then kinda gave in on that too after I realized everything I was doing was being trumped by the Rev’s.

It’s slightly depressing, and I don’t want to give up Thief, but I’m feeling like Areanet is forcing us away from it, and onto Rev.

I think the only solution for PvP is to turn off all chat, including Team chat, because your own team will troll you harder than the opponent. If you know what to do in PvP (and it sounds like you do) then Team chat becomes superfluous.

As far as raids/dungeons and what not go, you might get accepted if your a venom-sharing goon? Might.

Unfortunately we thieves will continue to get plenty of hate until a) Anet brings some of the cheese classes under control, and b) thieves get a real rework.

Until then, we play for love of the class I guess. If we ever do get buffed, then we will start owning again because of all these hundred of hours playing a weak class make us better.

Your signature is my life’s story, and I really appreciate the advice. I’m going to take it to heart right away, and turn off my team chat. I didn’t think about it prior, I’ve taken to just going offline rather than just blocking it out, but I’ll give that a shot as well!

Thank you!

Thieves gotta stick together man.

Good luck.

The sad part is it’s not our fault. I don’t understand why anet won’t do anything about it. Or at least acknowledge it.

Gecko.1962:

The thing that irritates me the most is that people CONSTANTLY cry about having me on their team. Whether I’m pulling 100 points or 300 points, they will find a reason. I line up my burst correctly, I can 1v1 almost all classes pretty effectively, and I do my job as a Thief to the best of my ability. I don’t deserve to be treated like garbage..

They’ll always need someone (else) to blame for a loss.

Maugetarr.6823:

Gecko.1962:

The thing that irritates me the most is that people CONSTANTLY cry about having me on their team. Whether I’m pulling 100 points or 300 points, they will find a reason. I line up my burst correctly, I can 1v1 almost all classes pretty effectively, and I do my job as a Thief to the best of my ability. I don’t deserve to be treated like garbage..

They’ll always need someone (else) to blame for a loss.

True fact. I turned off team chat when I’m solo queing. At least my guildmates appreciates me… to a certain extent.

I decided to head out and do some PvE, after dropping to Ruby 2 from Ruby 4. I’m getting 1 shot by most mobs, and have to rely on my shortbow more than my actual main weapons, or I’ll die. I don’t know if this is intentional, but Thief just feels really.. Really weak right now in PvE..

I tried jumping in on some Raids, and was denied all the way up until my Guild decided to do the first boss for fun. Nobody wants a Thief on their Raid Team because we don’t do enough “damage”. I ended up doing Fractals, and then kinda gave in on that too after I realized everything I was doing was being trumped by the Rev’s..

I personally have 0 problems running Zerk Staff in Magumma, as long as I don’t lag out or screw up (which is fun for me, personally. I like Dark Souls after all.) Decent damage, decent mobility and evades and all.

For raids, it really depends on your raid group. If your party already has a Revenant, a Warrior, a Druid, and a Chronomancer, Thieves have the potential to be the highest DPS class in the game (i think…) With all buffs, we can do 30k per weakening charge, and a constant DPS of 20~25k DPS.

The problem is actually finding that team. Without the 4 classes in the same party as you, and allowing you to do nothing but DPS, other classes like rev may be more preferable.

For fractals, we can still be kind of useful. We have decent Stealth and Damage after all. (though stealth is more useful in dungeons then fractals i suppose)…

I have a Rev, but I still play thief 90% of the time. Sue me. >:)

What EazyPanda said.

In open world PvE you should NEVER die, unless you try too hard and want to solo some champs HP in Maguuma. We have plenty of evades, damage, position control, escape, etc., I am running too a staff/sb build and never, ever get downed/die in the “outside”. I guess you need to get used to a different kind of gameplay from the one in PvP, know for example when/how to avoid the attack of smokescales etc.

Regarding raids, well… you can’t fight people ignorance. I’m no genius of the thief class, but I managed for example to beat the VG with a semi-organized raid group (with 6 guildies and 4 pugs) with around 2:40 remaining on the timer. Funny story: the pugs were astonished by how much DPS the whole group was unleashing, stating a couple of times “I always thought thief was useless with poor damage, now I don’t anymore”.

The fact for raid is: most of the time, the pseudo-meta-copypasta players who don’t want a thief are just BAD PLAYERS. They think party comp is most important than actual skill. And ofc I would never bring 2+ thieves in a raid group, but as Eazy again said, the moment I have a herald+ps war+ chrono+druid, the ideal 5th spot for the sub 1 is a staff daredevil (but even without the druid, eh).

The thief class will always get the most hate, be it “OP n00b class, plz nerf!” or “OMG we’re screwed you’re so uselezz bring harald!!1”.