Guild Wars 2

So i started a thief a month and a half ago, i deleted it then cause i wanted another character. Now, i’ve started a new thief, and when i compare the experience in starting lvl’s pve it’s just been set so far back.

I cannot for the love of god solo some veterans, wich are easy with other classes (i only play norns so i know the starting area trough and trough) i have problems with anything that is more then 1 normal mob, in general i feel like i’m the most ineffective class ever, this while my previous attempt leveling a thief went quite smooth and while not passing warrior or guardian played fairly easy. I’ve done this area with all the classes now, and the new thief is by far the hardest and most frustrating. And since i’ve played it after all the other you’d think i’m more skilled now then when i started (i have 2 80’s i often fractal and do all the high events, i often wvw (already got my gift of battle)) I simply don’t understand. What caused this?
I’ve seen thiefs changed because supposedly being overpowered in WvWvW, while i could kill any glass cannon thief in WvWvW no problem, sometimes a few at the time, because i simply didn’t play glass cannon myself… I hope this class hasn’t been nerfed into oblivion for all pve because of this.

Plz look at this, i’ve played all classes at low level, including thief before, this isn’t normal.

Fox

Put a pistol in your offhand and abuse the blind pulses of Black Powder. No melee mob will be able to hit you as long as you stand in it. Except Dredge and champion level mobs.

The only serious nerfs to thieves have been the pistol whip (which I think should be reverted in PVE) and heart seeker. If you are running a backstab thief while leveling you are going to have a bad time. If you want to wreck mobs run d/d and spam death blossom with caltrops and signet of malice. <—- so easy to level this way.

I found that using the AoE weapon set S/D (CnD > tactical strike from behind) coupled with shadow arts VI (cloaked in shadow) really helps in surviving PvE (and PvP/WvW).

Permanently daze your single target and every time you are stealthing, you are blinding nearby targets whilst AoE’ing with auto attack.

Also carrying some good utilities (I carry shadow refuge, blinding powder and shadowstep/shadow return – these all compliment my build which focuses on critical strikes and shadow arts – 0/30/30/10/0) helps immensely!

BlueprintLFE.2358:

The only serious nerfs to thieves have been the pistol whip (which I think should be reverted in PVE) and heart seeker. If you are running a backstab thief while leveling you are going to have a bad time. If you want to wreck mobs run d/d and spam death blossom with caltrops and signet of malice. <—- so easy to level this way.

Dancing dagger also got seriously nerfed.

brunohstein.9038:

BlueprintLFE.2358:

The only serious nerfs to thieves have been the pistol whip (which I think should be reverted in PVE) and heart seeker. If you are running a backstab thief while leveling you are going to have a bad time. If you want to wreck mobs run d/d and spam death blossom with caltrops and signet of malice. <—- so easy to level this way.

Dancing dagger also got seriously nerfed.

Ah good call, very true yes it did.

well, we suck hard at pve, but QQ ppl want to nerf us even more !
When i see the the day 1 rabbit can kill me, then i quit

I can’t think of any veteran that’s difficult to solo that isn’t an undead giant or maybe a veteran karka egg layer and those are probably soloable, will have to try them later.

Black Powder > Veteran.
Cloak and Dagger + Dodge > Veteran.

PW, Heartseeker, CnD, Cluster bomb and Dancing Dagger have all taken hits but their negligible.
HS does the same, just at a lower health bracket.
Anything you could slay with Dancing D, you could kill with other options just fine.
Cluster bomb still deals enough damage.
PW, just use Black Powder and auto attack :P.

Thief is not intuitive to level. While you can blow things up with a glass build once you’re leveled and geared up, that doesn’t work terribly well when you’re under-geared and leveling.

I found that gearing and traiting for survivability was vastly superior – either sit in a black powder field, or dodge and death blossom everything down. Building for survivability allows you to fight multiple mobs at once without exploding, which in the aggregate moves your kill speed up.

Once you hit 80 and start acquiring rare and exotic pieces you can start transitioning to a higher damage burst build; you’ll actually be able to kill quickly and it’ll be easier to get the requisite survivability stats from the vastly increased stats on gear at that point.

DanH.5879:

well, we suck hard at pve, but QQ ppl want to nerf us even more !
When i see the the day 1 rabbit can kill me, then i quit

Rabbit in holding cell of Raving Asura Fractal says hi x-D

the problem is i’m still playing under the first major triat(14 now i guess), so traits shouldn’t matter that much tbh. And i get defeated at least once every 10 minutes…

I did all PvE content with a main hand dagger and offhand pistol. This allows you to use the 3th skill to teleport to/blind a target, after which you can use the 5th skill for AoE blind and you can keep hitting the target while in the field. At the end of the field (3 second) use a heartseeker to deal high damage and go stealth to finish with a backstab if necessary. This weapon configuration makes content, except Dredge, extremely easy.

Update your god kitten gear, there are plenty cheap stuff in Trade house and you are able to upgrade your geare every 5 levels(blue /green stuff) till 35, then every 15 (rare gear) levels 35-80, if not u doing smth very wrong.