Guild Wars 2

This may sound like a silly question, but I was wondering if someone had a list of buffs/boons/skills that makes basi venom not proc. Seems to me like a portion of the time it doesn’t work at all, so I wanted a small list to look for.

The wiki says “The venom is still used if an attack is blocked, evaded, obstructed, negated by Blind, or if the target has Invulnerability or Defiance.”, which I am well aware of.

But, from what I have seen Endure Pain seems to make it not work. I think this is because the strikes are not actually doing damage, but it uses the charges because I am landing a hit. Possibly a bug.

Anything else I should know about?

I’m pretty sure, if I remember correctly, that if you are in combat and you attack out of range that the venom drops off…then again, I have not used this for a very long time.

Venons are proc in any succesfull hit.,

Problem is that hitting blocks, Aegis, Invul, etc also count as “Hits” so it wastes you charges.

It also doesn’t work on stability or Resistance. Maybe is that why it wasn’t working on the warrior?

That would totally make sense. Man thats annoying. There is so much stability that, if that stops it, then that really sucks. They NEED to fix that. Makes it almost useless unless you get the drop on someone.

Syviren.7086:

That would totally make sense. Man thats annoying. There is so much stability that, if that stops it, then that really sucks. They NEED to fix that. Makes it almost useless unless you get the drop on someone.

So you are saying someone uses stability to prevent you from stunning them and it needs to be fixed?

Sigmoid.7082:

Syviren.7086:

That would totally make sense. Man thats annoying. There is so much stability that, if that stops it, then that really sucks. They NEED to fix that. Makes it almost useless unless you get the drop on someone.

So you are saying someone uses stability to prevent you from stunning them and it needs to be fixed?

Name another elite ability that can be completely negated by stability?

Kadin.2356:

Sigmoid.7082:

Syviren.7086:

That would totally make sense. Man thats annoying. There is so much stability that, if that stops it, then that really sucks. They NEED to fix that. Makes it almost useless unless you get the drop on someone.

So you are saying someone uses stability to prevent you from stunning them and it needs to be fixed?

Name another elite ability that can be completely negated by stability?

Jade winds, Chaotic release, headbutt, gravity well, chilled to the bone, dragons maw.
Then the partials are most of rampages CC, Tornado, the stun from supply crate, 2/3 of impact strike chain, summon flesh golems charge.

Be thankful as a Thief that, with Bountiful Theft, you’re one of a very limited number of classes that has a reliable way of dealing with Stability. If a Warrior runs into someone with Stability, the only ways he can deal with it are to wait for it to expire or to hope he has enough crowd control abilities to work his way through however many stacks they have.

Sigmoid.7082:

Kadin.2356:

Sigmoid.7082:

Syviren.7086:

That would totally make sense. Man thats annoying. There is so much stability that, if that stops it, then that really sucks. They NEED to fix that. Makes it almost useless unless you get the drop on someone.

So you are saying someone uses stability to prevent you from stunning them and it needs to be fixed?

Name another elite ability that can be completely negated by stability?

Jade winds, Chaotic release, headbutt, gravity well, chilled to the bone, dragons maw.
Then the partials are most of rampages CC, Tornado, the stun from supply crate, 2/3 of impact strike chain, summon flesh golems charge.

Everything you mentioned does damage (some even grants boons) so the elite is not completely negated by stability.

Shinjo.6092:

Sigmoid.7082:

Kadin.2356:

Sigmoid.7082:

Syviren.7086:

That would totally make sense. Man thats annoying. There is so much stability that, if that stops it, then that really sucks. They NEED to fix that. Makes it almost useless unless you get the drop on someone.

So you are saying someone uses stability to prevent you from stunning them and it needs to be fixed?

Name another elite ability that can be completely negated by stability?

Jade winds, Chaotic release, headbutt, gravity well, chilled to the bone, dragons maw.
Then the partials are most of rampages CC, Tornado, the stun from supply crate, 2/3 of impact strike chain, summon flesh golems charge.

Everything you mentioned does damage (some even grants boons) so the elite is not completely negated by stability.

That’s exactly why I wrote completely. Reading is fundamental.

Kadin.2356:

Shinjo.6092:

Sigmoid.7082:

Kadin.2356:

Sigmoid.7082:

Syviren.7086:

That would totally make sense. Man thats annoying. There is so much stability that, if that stops it, then that really sucks. They NEED to fix that. Makes it almost useless unless you get the drop on someone.

So you are saying someone uses stability to prevent you from stunning them and it needs to be fixed?

Name another elite ability that can be completely negated by stability?

Jade winds, Chaotic release, headbutt, gravity well, chilled to the bone, dragons maw.
Then the partials are most of rampages CC, Tornado, the stun from supply crate, 2/3 of impact strike chain, summon flesh golems charge.

Everything you mentioned does damage (some even grants boons) so the elite is not completely negated by stability.

That’s exactly why I wrote completely. Reading is fundamental.

Sigh how many elites can be completely negated by blind? ( a condition thieves have in abundance) More than can be negated by stability. If things can be negated by a condition why not a boon? Again there is literally no reason why BV should have special functionality with regards to how it interacts with stability. It doesnt need to be “fixed” its working as intended.

By this notion of the ability being elite they apparently should be devoid of counter play :/

It can be prepared in advance and used from stealth, not many elites have such a short window in which you have to counter it nor can many make you preemptively defend wasting crucial cooldowns. Not to mention you have steal to completely circumvent stability when traited. I dont get nor sympathize with your arguments.

Kadin.2356:

Shinjo.6092:

Sigmoid.7082:

Kadin.2356:

Sigmoid.7082:

Syviren.7086:

That would totally make sense. Man thats annoying. There is so much stability that, if that stops it, then that really sucks. They NEED to fix that. Makes it almost useless unless you get the drop on someone.

So you are saying someone uses stability to prevent you from stunning them and it needs to be fixed?

Name another elite ability that can be completely negated by stability?

Jade winds, Chaotic release, headbutt, gravity well, chilled to the bone, dragons maw.
Then the partials are most of rampages CC, Tornado, the stun from supply crate, 2/3 of impact strike chain, summon flesh golems charge.

Everything you mentioned does damage (some even grants boons) so the elite is not completely negated by stability.

That’s exactly why I wrote completely. Reading is fundamental.

Let’s give him another chance before he looks like a complete kitten for failing to read.

Sigmoid.7082:

Sigh how many elites can be completely negated by blind?

Can I just point out that thief blind access is almost complete crap unless you happen to run d/p? Outside of d/p we have offhand pistol on s/p and p/p, where the #5 skill is a complete waste of initiative. Blinding powder is the only utility which can blind on demand. No sane person will take the blind on stealth trait as it is a grandmaster in shadow arts.