What stats are better and why? Thief WvW

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Posted by: Itachi.1097

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Q:

Hello Everyone!

I was working on 2 builds and I was curious what’s more important for a Thief in WvW?
Attack Power > Critical Hit and Critical Damage
or
Critical Hit and Critical Damage > Attack Power

Here are the stats that I am working with…

Build 1
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAoYVlUmiO3cy9E/5Ey2jdqC5JuHGVS1UaFoJA-jUCBYLCiUEAk3g0HQJPFRjtPoIasqFYqSER1eDFRrWKgRFGB-w

In-depth stat breakdown
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1g.h8.8.1g.h17.0.0.0|5.1g.h1j.0.0.0|1g.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1.0.0.0.0.0.0|1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67|a3.u36b.u56b.0.0|39.7|57.5c.5h.5b.5u|e

Build 2
http://en.gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAoYVlUmiO3cy9E/5Ey2jdqC5JuHGVS1UaFoJA-jUCBYLCiUEAk3g0HQJPFRjtPoIasqFYqSER1eDFRrWKgRFGB-w

In-depth stat breakdown
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.3|8.1g.h4.8.1g.h17.0.0.0|5.1g.h1j.0.0.0|1g.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1.0.0.0.0.0.0|1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67|a3.u36b.u56b.0.0|6f.1|57.5c.5h.5b.5u|e

Build 3 (More Survival)

http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAsYVlUmiO3cy9E/5Ey2jdqC5JuHGVS1UaFoJA-jUCBoLCiEEAk3g0HQJPFRjtPoIasqFYqSER1eDFRrWKgIWGB-w

In-depth
http://gw2buildcraft.com/calculator/thief/?7.0|8.1c.h4.8.1c.h17.0.0.0|5.1c.h1j.0.0.0|1g.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1.1g.a1.0.0.0.0.0.0|1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67.1g.67|a3.u36b.u56b.0.0|6f.1|57.5c.5h.5b.5u|e

I’m not sure which one will do more damage as well as help me sustain in combat I have seen similar builds do 1 vs 5, but I wanted to tweak their builds order to make squeeze more potential out of them unfortunately I am unsure if critical hit or power is more beneficial and why.

If you can squeeze more out of my builds then feel free to edit and change them and post them here so I can see and learn and if you could explain why your build is more beneficial it would also help me understand the stat priority.

PLEASE NO BUILDS BEYOND EXOTIC UNLESS YOU ARE SHOWING THE MAXIMUM POTENTIAL OF BOTH AS ASCENDED GEAR IS HARD TO OBTAIN FOR NEW PLAYERS!

My Reference Video

Thank You

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Posted by: DatPieGuy.6540

DatPieGuy.6540

umm I don’t know if I’m missing something, but those 2 builds are exactly the same, but with different foods. You really could have just asked which food you should use. Also, power is the most important damage stat, so the second build would give higher dps. Lastly, you say you want to sustain in combat, but your full zerk gear really isn’t going to do that, beryl orbs or not. You’ll get blown up in fights with 3 or more enemies even if only 1 of them specs for damage.

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Itachi.1097

umm I don’t know if I’m missing something, but those 2 builds are exactly the same, but with different foods. You really could have just asked which food you should use. Also, power is the most important damage stat, so the second build would give higher dps. Lastly, you say you want to sustain in combat, but your full zerk gear really isn’t going to do that, beryl orbs or not. You’ll get blown up in fights with 3 or more enemies even if only 1 of them specs for damage.

Check out my reference video that I posted just now also they aren’t the same build one is more damage the other is more critical hit chance I wasn’t sure if giving up the damage to critical more often was worth its weight

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Posted by: hihey.1075

hihey.1075

You build Tweaked:
http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAoYVlUmiO3cy9E/5Ey2jdqCJKuHGVS1UaFoJA-jEDBYLCikFg0HQUBAJqAJPKrZPRsPoIasqFYqSCp6SR2boIa1SBMqwI-w

Keep in mind, the upcoming changes to Critical Damage might make this build obsolete.
Also, you have close to none condi removal, so you need to watch out.

Lastly, when you say “similar builds capable of 1v5”, it only means that the 5 people were EXTREMELY bad. It takes one decent thief to completely shut down another D/D fighting outnumbered, and the only reason you’d stay alive is through channelling stealth and Shadow Refuge.

Anyway, it’s still the main build for fresh D/D roamers.

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Posted by: frans.8092

frans.8092

Hello Everyone!

I was working on 2 builds and I was curious what’s more important for a Thief in WvW?
Attack Power > Critical Hit and Critical Damage
or
Critical Hit and Critical Damage > Attack Power

If you’re looking for more damage, power is always the first stat to raise. After having majored in Power, it depends a bit on other factors, but usually Critical Damage first, then Precision. Upcoming changes may alter the that, so don’t go crafting ascended stuff.

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Posted by: Itachi.1097

Itachi.1097

Hello Everyone!

I was working on 2 builds and I was curious what’s more important for a Thief in WvW?
Attack Power > Critical Hit and Critical Damage
or
Critical Hit and Critical Damage > Attack Power

If you’re looking for more damage, power is always the first stat to raise. After having majored in Power, it depends a bit on other factors, but usually Critical Damage first, then Precision. Upcoming changes may alter the that, so don’t go crafting ascended stuff.

You’re the second person to say there where can I find the patch notes?

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Posted by: frans.8092

frans.8092

There are more threads but Feature Build Balance Preview is a good start.