Guild Wars 2

Early concept arts clearly show that they wanted to go for the “Assassin” name (as shown in attachment).
Was it because Assassins in GW lore were related to Cantha and everything Cantha must be removed from GW2?
Or was it because the word sounded too inappropriate?

Because 1 shotting people with the class called “Assassin” definitely means it’s OP.

And I think they didn’t want a one-trick-pony, meaning assassins typically assassinate and more than likely aren’t good at anything else…. Remember they made “Thief” as their archetype for Assassin/Ninja/Rogue/Thief types.

I don’t think they’ve gone too far off.

Steal mechanic itself seems gimmicky and plays rather small role in class.
It should have been a utility in my opinion.

Assassin just seems much more appropriate.

Yeah but I really think they attempted (traps?) to make thief more diverse then just doing assassinations. Attempted being the keyword.

anet does love their boobs

Cuz they wanted them to be super squishy instead of durable block duelist dps tanks. Also less interesting to promote more interest towards Warrior I guess.

Cantha probably has a major influence on why but it doesn’t really explain why they changed the mechanics so massively. Assassins were already diverse. They could use any weapon they wanted and even go trap build with /Ranger anyways. NPC Assassins even jumped people while wielding longbows. Would of been a lot more interesting just building upon what they already did.

One of the worst part of the Assassin to Theif transition is the total destruction of all Assassin armor and it being replaced with Ranger armor. It forever torments me.

Marethyu.1358:

anet does love their boobs

And we love them too.

Karolis.4261:

Marethyu.1358:

anet does love their boobs

And we love them too.

They make the world go round…

The world is round, and round objects go round.

The world is a boob.

‘Thief’ is probably more general then assassin, so it allowed them to cover more character archetypes within a single class. A thief might assassinate, he might not, but an assassin definitely assassinates.

I’m confused is this thread about boobs or assassins ?

I don’t get all of the trap bashing. Sure, Ambush and Needle Trap are kitten, but Shadow Trap is fantastic both offensively and defensively, and can prevent home point decaps in PvP when you’re all the way on far point. Tripwire is an AoE 2 second knockdown that can stop a backstab better than any other utility, and is also fantastic for on-point fights in PvP.

RedSpectrum.1975:

I’m confused is this thread about boobs or assassins ?

Boobysins

Where did you people find that art with the cultural armor? Are there more artworks like that with human cultural armors?

Lucky Shot.7650:

Where did you people find that art with the cultural armor? Are there more artworks like that with human cultural armors?

Probably somewhere around those rule 34 websites. -.-

RedSpectrum.1975:

I’m confused is this thread about boobs or assassins ?

Boobs clearly.

Doggie.3184:

Lucky Shot.7650:

Where did you people find that art with the cultural armor? Are there more artworks like that with human cultural armors?

Probably somewhere around those rule 34 websites. -.-

RedSpectrum.1975:

I’m confused is this thread about boobs or assassins ?

Boobs clearly.

They’re official pieces of concept art for human t3 medium. The only other cultural in this style is Norn light t1.

Doggie.3184:

One of the worst part of the Assassin to Theif transition is the total destruction of all Assassin armor and it being replaced with Ranger armor. It forever torments me.

That had nothing to do with the name change. That was part of them deciding to only have 3 armor classes that all looked the same on the classes that wore them. Also not all assassin armor was removed , in fact this very armor is still the medium human T3.

Lucky Shot.7650:

Where did you people find that art with the cultural armor? Are there more artworks like that with human cultural armors?

Hyojin Ahn I think was the artist.

gaspara.4079:

Doggie.3184:

One of the worst part of the Assassin to Theif transition is the total destruction of all Assassin armor and it being replaced with Ranger armor. It forever torments me.

That had nothing to do with the name change. That was part of them deciding to only have 3 armor classes that all looked the same on the classes that wore them. Also not all assassin armor was removed , in fact this very armor is still the medium human T3.

I’m not a Female Human. Assassin style armor does not exist for my character, only Ranger armor does. So I guess since that’s the only Assassin armor they decided to put in the game then Anet believes Assassin is all about boobs only. Human boobs.

Doggie.3184:

gaspara.4079:

Doggie.3184:

One of the worst part of the Assassin to Theif transition is the total destruction of all Assassin armor and it being replaced with Ranger armor. It forever torments me.

That had nothing to do with the name change. That was part of them deciding to only have 3 armor classes that all looked the same on the classes that wore them. Also not all assassin armor was removed , in fact this very armor is still the medium human T3.

I’m not a Female Human. Assassin armor does not exist for my character, only Ranger armor does. So I guess since that’s the only Assassin armor they decided to put in the game then Anet believes Assassin is all about boobs only. Human boobs.

Sex sells. Sorry, but more people are going to be I to humans than plants, cats, gremlins or giants.

Awww…. This Digital Art is kitten epiC! I’m sitting all the time and trying 2 choose the colors to make my character look similar to this photo <333

Assassins became Thief because they lost all honor in fighting! Now you’re the kind of dirty rats 2hit killing people out from nowhere and gone to nowhere!
End of Story

RoyalPredator.9163:

Assassins became Thief because they lost all honor in fighting! Now you’re the kind of dirty rats 2hit killing people out from nowhere and gone to nowhere!
End of Story

I feel someone got hid kitten handed to him today

my assasssin in gw1 could perma hold critical defense, WotA, critical eye, and way of perfection… all the while dishing out tons of damage from unsuspecting strike, fox fangs, and critical strikes. 75% chance to block, +32 health a crit, +4 energy a crit…. gw1 was a beautiful world

Karolis.4261:

RoyalPredator.9163:

Assassins became Thief because they lost all honor in fighting! Now you’re the kind of dirty rats 2hit killing people out from nowhere and gone to nowhere!
End of Story

I feel someone got hid kitten handed to him today

True. Sadly there is no Thief you can trust. In WWW they’re quite a big trouble for my Ranger…
Y’know what? Thief Initiative should be Ranger’s!
And then, Thieves should get back GW1’s Assassin chain-skill methood, as well as Warriors should get back the adrenaline-building skill useages instead of stupid CDs.

Sorry if I were rude, but … just try to play Ranger versus anyone who isn’t braindead.

RoyalPredator.9163:

Karolis.4261:

RoyalPredator.9163:

Assassins became Thief because they lost all honor in fighting! Now you’re the kind of dirty rats 2hit killing people out from nowhere and gone to nowhere!
End of Story

I feel someone got hid kitten handed to him today

True. Sadly there is no Thief you can trust. In WWW they’re quite a big trouble for my Ranger…
Y’know what? Thief Initiative should be Ranger’s!
And then, Thieves should get back GW1’s Assassin chain-skill methood, as well as Warriors should get back the adrenaline-building skill useages instead of stupid CDs.

Sorry if I were rude, but … just try to play Ranger versus anyone who isn’t braindead.

“Nerf the cheetah” said the gazelle to mother nature………

RoyalPredator.9163:

True. Sadly there is no Thief you can trust. In WWW they’re quite a big trouble for my Ranger…
Y’know what? Thief Initiative should be Ranger’s!
And then, Thieves should get back GW1’s Assassin chain-skill methood, as well as Warriors should get back the adrenaline-building skill useages instead of stupid CDs.

Sorry if I were rude, but … just try to play Ranger versus anyone who isn’t braindead.

I’ve heard that GC Ranger is not OP.

trolololol

Viking Jorun.5413:

Doggie.3184:

gaspara.4079:

Doggie.3184:

One of the worst part of the Assassin to Theif transition is the total destruction of all Assassin armor and it being replaced with Ranger armor. It forever torments me.

That had nothing to do with the name change. That was part of them deciding to only have 3 armor classes that all looked the same on the classes that wore them. Also not all assassin armor was removed , in fact this very armor is still the medium human T3.

I’m not a Female Human. Assassin armor does not exist for my character, only Ranger armor does. So I guess since that’s the only Assassin armor they decided to put in the game then Anet believes Assassin is all about boobs only. Human boobs.

Sex sells. Sorry, but more people are going to be I to humans than plants, cats, gremlins or giants.

It sells yeah, but there’s more than one sex that sells but they only choose human female sex. .-. Why expend so much effort making the same ugly coat over and over again?

The named set is very assassin looking too and available for all races.

Viking Jorun.5413:

I don’t get all of the trap bashing. Sure, Ambush and Needle Trap are kitten, but Shadow Trap is fantastic both offensively and defensively, and can prevent home point decaps in PvP when you’re all the way on far point. Tripwire is an AoE 2 second knockdown that can stop a backstab better than any other utility, and is also fantastic for on-point fights in PvP.

There’s better options, that’s all.

People don’t really seem to be answering the question are they? …

I can’t find the source right away but during one of the pre-release interviews they stated that they named the thief THIEF instead of ASSASSIN because assassins were trained in cantha. With the movement of the world cantha was isolated from the rest of the world. Thus no assassins would be seen outside cantha anymore.

Try looking up the youtube interviews about the thief pre-release. It’s said in there somewhere (while they were introducing steal and initiative while spamming unload if i’m not wrong.)

Is that the official reason then? Seems a bit silly; I would have figured after 250 years that the style of the assassin could have migrated outside of where it was originated. Considering that the theif is basically an assassin anyway one would speculate this to have happened regardless of the name change. Seems a bit silly.

As far as rangers having the initiative system; initiative kind of makes sense as a limiting factor to the combo system assassins in GW1 were known for given that energy is no longer a thing. It allows the thief to chain together attacks in a meaningful way without having to be hindered by cooldowns. The part where I think they miss the mark is that there aren’t really a lot things that work well off of each other among the available weaponsets. Dagger/Pistol has really obvious synergy, but most of the other weaponskills are fairly isolated events.

RoyalPredator.9163:

Karolis.4261:

RoyalPredator.9163:

Assassins became Thief because they lost all honor in fighting! Now you’re the kind of dirty rats 2hit killing people out from nowhere and gone to nowhere!
End of Story

I feel someone got hid kitten handed to him today

True. Sadly there is no Thief you can trust. In WWW they’re quite a big trouble for my Ranger…
Y’know what? Thief Initiative should be Ranger’s!
And then, Thieves should get back GW1’s Assassin chain-skill methood, as well as Warriors should get back the adrenaline-building skill useages instead of stupid CDs.

Sorry if I were rude, but … just try to play Ranger versus anyone who isn’t braindead.

ill actually agree with this…. however weneed the other skills that go with it. with allt he aegis…dodgeing…invuln etc…chain skills wont work here. not without more unblockables and old traits. good idea tho

They could have just left assassin as the name. The skill set the “thief” has access to is all about incapacitating, damaging, escaping and distraction, which all lead up to killing the target and getting away. Correct me if i’m wrong but that pretty much sums up an assassin. We have steal, woohoo so thief like we can teleport and get something that helps you kill your target, again more along the lines of assassins. Thieves in this are not thieves they are assassins through and through. Do thieves in this sneak through buildings stealing things or pick pocketing people on the streets. No they don’t, they kill people.

Gwalchgwn.1659:

People don’t really seem to be answering the question are they? …

I can’t find the source right away but during one of the pre-release interviews they stated that they named the thief THIEF instead of ASSASSIN because assassins were trained in cantha. With the movement of the world cantha was isolated from the rest of the world. Thus no assassins would be seen outside cantha anymore.

Try looking up the youtube interviews about the thief pre-release. It’s said in there somewhere (while they were introducing steal and initiative while spamming unload if i’m not wrong.)

Theres a fairly large amount of people of Canthan decent throughout the game. It’s stupid to think that none of them have any family legacy involving assassins. Assassins could still be in the game and it would make sense, more so then taking assassins and just renaming them. Also the tier 3 medium is called assassins armor. Why not just call it thief armor. Its clearly made for an assassin type person, and aside from the long coat, it’s very reminiscent of gw1 assassin armor.

Assassins absolutely could exist outside Cantha. I think the issue though is that not all thief type players will be assassins.