WvW Build: Ghost Thief: Ganking & Zerg Diving

WvW Build: Ghost Thief: Ganking & Zerg Diving

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Posted by: meepeY.2867

meepeY.2867

Hey guys,

I’ve been running a fun & cheesy build in WvW that utilises the Thief’s main selling point: Being Invisible. Forever.

We can kill players whilst invisible and they’ll never see you enter the fight and they’ll never see you leave. This build will generate a lot of agro if you reveal yourself next to your dead enemy. You will get reported for hacking, as it REALLY does look like they’ve been killed by a Hacker.

The build uses AOE condition’s as they will NOT reveal you and Trapper Runes with 2x Needle Trap (Second trap through traits) for prolonged stealth and super speed to keep up with fleeing enemies.

This build works best if you are a Human Thief, as you have access to Reaper of Grenth, another AOE condition ability that will also not reaveal you. If you’re not Human, then use Thieve’s Guild.

Here’s a link to the build

Keep in mind, if the opponent has lots or consistent condition clear, then the fight will last a very long time, but in most cases you’ll be able to easily win 1vX fights with no problems.

Pros:

- Tanky
- Infinite Condition Clear
- Very High Condition Burst Damage
- Very Strong 1vX potential
- Very Fun to play
- Can ruin Zerg Balls
- Can slow down enemy Zerg Tower Captures
- 4/10 Difficulty Rating

Cons:

- Susceptible to Reveal Traps
- Heavy Condition Clear lowers DPS significantly
- AOE Bombs on your location when Zerg Diving
- When Revealed EVERYONE will focus you
- You will most likely get reported for hacking
- Not really challenging to play
- Low physical damage
- 100% Countered by Diamond Skin Elementalists & Shout Guardians

Some notes to remember when using the build:

- Always keep one eye on your Stealth Timer. Being invisible is the whole point.
- Careful when stacking Stealth through Black Powder + Heartseeker. Heartseeker can and will bring you out of Stealth if you accidentally clip someone.
- Dodge roll is now an offensive weapon. Make sure to drop the caltrops at their feet.
- Open with a Steal + Needle Trap -> Caltrops (Utility Skill) -> 2nd Needle Trap -> Dodge roll x2
- Use Reaper of Grenth if they start to run away (Refreshing Chill is OP)
- In a 1vX, target the one with the least Condition Clear
- Turn off Auto Attack by CRTL+Right Clicking your #1 Skills

If you have any questions, then please feel free to post a reply below.

Media

I unfortunately don’t have any Youtube footage to back the build but I frequently stream this build on my Twitch.tv channel:
http://www.twitch.tv/meepeyplays

https://www.twitch.tv/meepeYPlays
WvW Thief Aurora Glade – Mutli Bulid Streamer – 1PM – 4PM GMT, Mon – Fri
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WvW Build: Ghost Thief: Ganking & Zerg Diving

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Posted by: reinforever.8902

reinforever.8902

This is a pretty interesting build! I like it would definitely like to see some gameplay.

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Posted by: Cloudo.7315

Cloudo.7315

I have been running pretty much this build on and of since last update for giggles.. It gets quite silly after some time, cause its so cheese.. but can be quite fun form time to time aswell.

There is no need for the shadow refuge to keep 100% stealth uptime. I prefer tripwire instead to keep them longer in my caltrops and pressure striking for when tripwire interrupts (surprisingly quite often).

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Posted by: meepeY.2867

meepeY.2867

I have been running pretty much this build on and of since last update for giggles.. It gets quite silly after some time, cause its so cheese.. but can be quite fun form time to time aswell.

There is no need for the shadow refuge to keep 100% stealth uptime. I prefer tripwire instead to keep them longer in my caltrops and pressure striking for when tripwire interrupts (surprisingly quite often).

Yeah, I’m loving it as well. I’m going to try out Tripwire now. I used Shadow Refuge as a free long term stealth so i don’t need to worry about my timer for too long. It has a lot of uses, some downfalls too.

I’m going live on my stream right now, and I’ll be testing trip wire.

https://www.twitch.tv/meepeYPlays
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Posted by: schloumou.3982

schloumou.3982

My personal favorite part of the stream i watched is when you rage about revealtraps while running this build which is killing people without leaving stealth once.
Completely broken stuff in my opinion which hopefully will be gone soon. Enjoy it while it lasts but please stop saying stuff like : “Yeah i won this fight!” as if your opponent had a chance to deal with that.

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Posted by: meepeY.2867

meepeY.2867

My personal favorite part of the stream i watched is when you rage about revealtraps while running this build which is killing people without leaving stealth once.
Completely broken stuff in my opinion which hopefully will be gone soon. Enjoy it while it lasts but please stop saying stuff like : “Yeah i won this fight!” as if your opponent had a chance to deal with that.

I never “raged” about reveal traps. I was saying it was a cheeky move on their part purely for theatrics. And the second time I got reveal trapped, i “raged” (Again, Theatrics) about the Ranger and 1500 Longbow range, not the trap. I don’t mean to be rude, but it seems like you weren’t paying too much attention to the stream. In any other situation, that’s fine, but if you’re trying to call me out on things at least point at the things which actually happened.

Like it says in my Cons section, reveal traps counter the build 100%. I’m trying to make my stream entertaining for my viewers and being revealed isn’t going to help. I suppose it adds some sort of duress or pressure on me to perform whilst revealed which some people may find interesting to watch.

Completely broken? No, I disagree. If you’re smart and have (like most builds should) condition clear and mobility then you can easily just run away. But if you’re a complete potato then you’ll panic and die.

There’s a lot too it for every profession. But most builds that aren’t gimmicky can easily get away, people just don’t realise what’s happening so they don’t react or don’t react in time.

Also this build won’t be going away any time soon. It takes from different sources, trapper runes and traps, AOE Caltrops, Steal, ect. It’s very hard to nerf without gimping 10 other builds which aren’t “OP” or “Completely Broken”.

At the end of the day, it’s cheesy, gimmicky, fun to play and from the general reaction in my chat; fun to watch.

Apologies if I’ve come across as a bit of an (comment filter keeps changing the word to Kitten, think alternate name for a donkey-hole), I’m just trying to defend myself.

Quick note whilst I’m typing this novel of a comment; Tripwire trap doesn’t help the build very much in a surviving sense. Shadow Refuge is much better for long draw out fights, which most fights are with this build. Shadow Refuge is also much better for 1vX or 1vZerg fights as it allows you to stealth in tight spaces where a Heartseeker may accidentally tag someone and reveal you.

https://www.twitch.tv/meepeYPlays
WvW Thief Aurora Glade – Mutli Bulid Streamer – 1PM – 4PM GMT, Mon – Fri
My Daredevil Build: The Defender!

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Posted by: schloumou.3982

schloumou.3982

Apologie accepted. But beeing able to run from a build is not exactly a proof of great ballance in my opinion and buying some traps for ingame currency no real counterplay. I dont build an omega to fight you eighter. Permastealth is one thing (you can discuss if its cool gamedesign or not), but beeing able to cc and doing that much condipressure while hidden and tanky is just broken for me.