Guild Wars 2

Hey guys i’m back playing guild wars 2 after a three month break cheers
Quick lil update video xD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qJnl6em42A&feature=youtu.be
Gonna be uploading a lot more WvW/sPvP/Tournaments in the near future for thief and some guardian. Make sure to check that out guys, just wanted to give you an update on what I’m up to and such. You can msg me in game if you have any questions

Link to the build video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9JYA0EoaO7Y

Thanks

old video. :P we no longer have stun break on command. nerfed. i used to run this build with a few twirks:) its fun

Travlane.5948:

old video. :P we no longer have stun break on command. nerfed. i used to run this build with a few twirks:) its fun

Yea havent played in a few months xD just came back a few days ago so im gonna working on a few adjustments to compensate for the lack of stun breaks we have now

s/d is kinda dead in wvw now :/ without the old s/d…..its really hard to have escape possiblities. check out the new shadow trap.

Travlane.5948:

s/d is kinda dead in wvw now :/ without the old s/d…..its really hard to have escape possiblities. check out the new shadow trap.

Prolly gonna switch it to shortbow or Dagger pistol, one of the 2, need to do some testing first.

check out p/d build of mine 10 0 30 0 30 long reach sleight of hand ricochet …restis obviously (no init gain…its not needed) works great in 1 v 1 1 v x and z v z

d/p + dd is what I run in wvw…

s/d in wvw is useless now with all the nerfs to it.

shortbow isn’t needed when you have perma stealth from d/p

d/d is only used for the initial cnd→steal→backstab, then immediately swap to d/p for the blind field defense…

right on swinsk…. but make sure u have a get away (shadow ref or shadow trap) for when those larger groups come!

Trav, you don’t play a sword build so please stop telling people their builds suck and advertising your own mediocre p/d troll build.

Kylar, with the “new” (to you) s/d mechanics, I’d opt for more boon sharing and initiative regen since Larcenist’s Strike is stupid OP with the ability to strip 6 boons in a matter of seconds. Travlane doesn’t know what he’s talking about with “escapability”, because precasting IS or using any stealth skill (just like any other thief build) is an easy escape.
Since Withdraw acts as a stun break, try that instead of HiS and throw in Swiftness on Dodge to maintain near-perma-swiftness as a S/D thief.

Just my take on the build and the direction you should go with it to conform to the meta, but you can do what you want with it. It’s your build.

viking stop following me . seriously its getting creepy. really.

he just got bad to the game. he is wvw player and im not the only person to say that sword is dead in wvw. really. do me a favor. u wanted to act mature and not call each other names fine. stop trolling me / other players. keep turning down a duel bc of ur “video graphics card” . and stop msging in response to me.

and kylar. NEVER conform. do what makes you happy and what you have fun with. just make sure you have a way of dealing with zergs. if u need practice or something im me in game.

viking you should duel the first guy that accepted a challenge on here. hes good

LightningBlaze.4913 we went halfsies roughly on about 15 duels. see how u match up lol.

Some of the best WvW thieves use Sword/Dagger even now.

I was using it against my ele friend in spvp and it seemed to do fairly well.

S/D is amazing, dont listen to the bads who need to L2P. It lets you win against boon bunker builds without a lot of hassle or spending 10 minutes fighting them waiting for them to make a mistake. I dont even run a build set up to use S/D, I use a (10/30/30/0/0) D/D build, it’s my offhand and still works perfectly fine, you just need to know what youre doing.

d/p s/d still works in WvW. s/d is just a bit more situational than before, but I personally feel it still provides more utility than any other available weapon set. IS is still good for movement (chained together with your teleport of choice and steal, you can close anywhere from 2700-3200 range in a split second) and as an immob, and boon steal is always good to have. Also, you won’t lose your opener because you can just start with IS > CnD > weapon swap > BS, and you are on d/p for the primary part of the fight, just as normal.

wish.1027:

S/D is amazing, dont listen to the bads who need to L2P. It lets you win against boon bunker builds without a lot of hassle or spending 10 minutes fighting them waiting for them to make a mistake. I dont even run a build set up to use S/D, I use a (10/30/30/0/0) D/D build, it’s my offhand and still works perfectly fine, you just need to know what youre doing.

s/d is quite amazing. but this guy is talking wvw tho. diff ball game.

ryokoalways.3450:

d/p s/d still works in WvW. s/d is just a bit more situational than before, but I personally feel it still provides more utility than any other available weapon set. IS is still good for movement (chained together with your teleport of choice and steal, you can close anywhere from 2700-3200 range in a split second) and as an immob, and boon steal is always good to have. Also, you won’t lose your opener because you can just start with IS > CnD > weapon swap > BS, and you are on d/p for the primary part of the fight, just as normal.

i agree with this entire post. so in your way of explaining it s/d IS def 100% usable in wvw. BUT only as an opener or a quick adjustment to a situation that is few between. like basically its a d/p set with s/d backup. ur running d/p 90% of the fight…its not a s/d build. so in essence of saying s/d…..s/d is not really a great build for wvw….unless u qualify it as a backup to d/p…. it IS a good thing those 2 builds can run interchangable. my wvw build for d/p is 0 30 20 20 0 and s/d fits as my 2ndary but rarely gets action for more than a sec.

New video posted! Check it out

-Thief 1vX roaming WvW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvdwVkAetes

Travlane.5948:

wish.1027:

S/D is amazing, dont listen to the bads who need to L2P. It lets you win against boon bunker builds without a lot of hassle or spending 10 minutes fighting them waiting for them to make a mistake. I dont even run a build set up to use S/D, I use a (10/30/30/0/0) D/D build, it’s my offhand and still works perfectly fine, you just need to know what youre doing.

s/d is quite amazing. but this guy is talking wvw tho. diff ball game.

Hey, Im talking WvW too, hence the talk about boon bunker builds and 10 minute fights waiting for them to mess up and how S/D just lets just you kill them. It’s worth the offhand slot just for that. But hey, dont worry, soon enough 90% of the people on the servers you fight will figure out that running lemongrass with melandru runes is amazing and you’ll need to adapt and get away from condition damage.

Kylar.5127:

New video posted! Check it out

-Thief 1vX roaming WvW
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvdwVkAetes

Thats a lot better, but please dont cut off the bottom of the video! I like to see skills and stuff.

Travlane.5948:

viking stop following me . seriously its getting creepy. really.

he just got bad to the game. he is wvw player and im not the only person to say that sword is dead in wvw. really. do me a favor. u wanted to act mature and not call each other names fine. stop trolling me / other players. keep turning down a duel bc of ur “video graphics card” . and stop msging in response to me.

and kylar. NEVER conform. do what makes you happy and what you have fun with. just make sure you have a way of dealing with zergs. if u need practice or something im me in game.

viking you should duel the first guy that accepted a challenge on here. hes good

LightningBlaze.4913 we went halfsies roughly on about 15 duels. see how u match up lol.

I’m not following you. I post in more topics on the thief forums and give far more constructive feedback than you. I was pointing out the fact that you literally told him that his build sucked and to try your p/d build that’s already been ripped apart in a separate topic. I’m happy to duel you when my computer’s back up and running. It’s been 4 days, so stop acting like I’m the one avoiding a fight. I gave a simple sentence at the top calling you out then went on to discuss his potential options rather than write an entire post about you. I message you in response to your own messages, and to keep things like this off of the forums.

So please, do me a favor and stop responding. Calling me out and making false accusations does nothing but ruin your own name here on the forums where you’ve already lost plenty of credibility. Trying to turn every topic I happen to post alongside you into a heated debate over kittens does no good for the community and I don’t condone this behavior.

Sorry, Kylar; Some people are rediculous in their opinions.

~Viking and Travlane sittin in a tree~
~S-T-A-B-I-N-G~

:3

Xenon.4537:

~Viking and Travlane sittin in a tree~
~S-T-A-B-I-N-G~

:3

We should make a thief forum poster campaign where we all put either “Thief Wars: Im with Viking” or “Thief Wars: Im with Tavlane” in our sigs. It would be cooler if we could make funny pictures to go with them, but saddly, no images for sigs here.

And then those two could add to their sigs how theyre the respective leaders, and make a thread where they can fight, so Trav can stop trying to tell everyone P/D is amazing and everything else is crap and Viking wont have to keep correcting him.

Thanks for all the input guys gonna be testing different things out and see which works best for me, hopefully will be able to get good footage to crank out more videos for you.
Always remember, screw Kiel we want the good fractal.

Viking and Travalane should just duel and get it over with, simple as that. xD

xmtrcv.5236:

Viking and Travalane should just duel and get it over with, simple as that. xD

I wish. My GTX 690 overheated on Friday and I’ve been awaiting my new GeForce GTX 780 ever since. I’m hoping it’ll be here soon, and I’m planning on streaming our duel.

Viking Jorun.5413:

xmtrcv.5236:

Viking and Travalane should just duel and get it over with, simple as that. xD

I wish :). My GTX 690 overheated on Friday and I’ve been awaiting my new GeForce GTX 780 ever since. I’m hoping it’ll be here soon, and I’m planning on streaming our duel.

Let me know, and I can spectate and stream as well. I’ve already dueled him, so… yeah. xD

Ooh, maybe we should duel! :p

Even though I’m the last person to main S/D in WvW, it works fine for me. I don’t even have more than 5 points in shadow arts. I roam freely, can get away when I want, accomplish what I want to do which is get lots of bags/WXP in zergs thanks to the shortbow I pack and able to solo stuff like sentries, camps, frogs etc. It does well for 1v1 and skirmishing with a small group which is obvious since it is a skirmishing weapon. It does what I need. Obviously you probably need more skill to roll with a low-stealth build but honestly I haven’t really used any stealth builds because I don’t really like that kinda playstyle.

I mean yesterday I was roaming…with 2 warriors, 1 mesmer, and 1 guardian. Everytime they wiped I got away…easily. I even killed people and then escaped. I basically got away twice from FA mini-zerg and the third time I killed this same warrior 3 times (rallied 3 times -.-") and still almost got away from the zerg. Thief escapability is awesome even without D/P perma stealth.

I’ve actually been testing out a S/D Shortbow build that is working very well. Able to 2v6 with another guildie running it as well.

Excalibur.9748:

Even though I’m the last person to main S/D in WvW, it works fine for me. I don’t even have more than 5 points in shadow arts. I roam freely, can get away when I want, accomplish what I want to do which is get lots of bags/WXP in zergs thanks to the shortbow I pack and able to solo stuff like sentries, camps, frogs etc. It does well for 1v1 and skirmishing with a small group which is obvious since it is a skirmishing weapon. It does what I need. Obviously you probably need more skill to roll with a low-stealth build but honestly I haven’t really used any stealth builds because I don’t really like that kinda playstyle.

I mean yesterday I was roaming…with 2 warriors, 1 mesmer, and 1 guardian. Everytime they wiped I got away…easily. I even killed people and then escaped. I basically got away twice from FA mini-zerg and the third time I killed this same warrior 3 times (rallied 3 times -.-") and still almost got away from the zerg. Thief escapability is awesome even without D/P perma stealth.

My philosophy is that a thief should never lose a fight. They can forfeit by running away stealthed, but they shouldn’t ever get stomped unless you’re zerged out of the blue.

I’ve been trying to work on that getting zerged out of the blue. I generally pop daggerstorm now then cancel it immediately then roll then spam infiltrator arrow. [In this situation shadow refuge = insta death, popping hide in shadows doesn’t help at all since you still get rolled by the enemy zerg despite stealthed, and not cancelling dagger storm = you get rolled by the enemy zerg albeit slowly since you move too slow] Usually works if I’m at tail end of the zerg that is about to get rolled by the opposing bigger zerg. The enemy usually moves not too fast, but what hurts is stacking multiple CC effects on you which renders you helpless. Stability definately works to overcome it.

But yes I agree that I roam freely without much worry. For the most part, I don’t die if I don’t overextend.

Excalibur.9748:

I’ve been trying to work on that getting zerged out of the blue. I generally pop daggerstorm now then cancel it immediately then roll then spam infiltrator arrow. [In this situation shadow refuge = insta death, popping hide in shadows doesn’t help at all since you still get rolled by the enemy zerg despite stealthed, and not cancelling dagger storm = you get rolled by the enemy zerg albeit slowly since you move too slow] Usually works if I’m at tail end of the zerg that is about to get rolled by the opposing bigger zerg. The enemy usually moves not too fast, but what hurts is stacking multiple CC effects on you which renders you helpless. Stability definately works to overcome it.

But yes I agree that I roam freely without much worry. For the most part, I don’t die if I don’t overextend.

Thieves mobility is ridiculously high. We can be from one place to another so fast its crazy. One of the main reasons i made this class xD

Kylar.5127:

Excalibur.9748:

I’ve been trying to work on that getting zerged out of the blue. I generally pop daggerstorm now then cancel it immediately then roll then spam infiltrator arrow. [In this situation shadow refuge = insta death, popping hide in shadows doesn’t help at all since you still get rolled by the enemy zerg despite stealthed, and not cancelling dagger storm = you get rolled by the enemy zerg albeit slowly since you move too slow] Usually works if I’m at tail end of the zerg that is about to get rolled by the opposing bigger zerg. The enemy usually moves not too fast, but what hurts is stacking multiple CC effects on you which renders you helpless. Stability definately works to overcome it.

But yes I agree that I roam freely without much worry. For the most part, I don’t die if I don’t overextend.

Thieves mobility is ridiculously high. We can be from one place to another so fast its crazy. One of the main reasons i made this class xD

I made a thief because I like the initiative system which allows me to use whatever skill I want, provided I have the initiative. Cooldown system is so 10 years ago. If I want to spam a skill…I’ll spam it. Apparently some people are trying to nerf our unique class mechanic and the reason for choosing the class.

Thief mobility though is obviously the other highlight of this classs… I really like it. I can’t use dagger setups because infil strike is too fun and too much mobility in combination with infiltrator signet and steal. One of my favorite things to do is to chain 3 shadowsteps and burst (kinda…sword can’t really burst) down a target, then return to the zerg to continue the WXP farming. Or just chain 3 shadow steps then spam cripple so the target can’t get away from the zerg at all. Some classes (basically warrior) are getting harder to catch these days tho but it’s still pretty good.