Guild Wars 2

To ArenaNet Developers

I have heard so many complaints out in the field (in game WvW) about thieves being able to stake/flag other individuals while under stealth/cloaked at the point-of-kill . Are you all going to take that ability away from thieves? Like, when a thief goes to flag/stake an individual the thief comes out of stealth.

I have a level 80 thief and I even feel it’s OP to be able to claim or stake a person while under stealth/cloaked, so I never use the ability to or do it. I know I’m gonna hear it from people, but so what, it’s wrong.

ThanX

If they remove the ability to stake when stealth are they also supposed to remove the ability to blackpowder > stake, or stake > shadowstep > shadowreturn > finish stake? I don’t think this should be removed and it’s not really and issue unless you didn’t see a thief go stealth to begin with. If someone is down and you see a thief go stealth you know where he is going to be, just use knock backs/fear/cc/or aoe him. Not that hard to counter stealth stomping as long as you know its happening.

It’s completely counterable unless you’re a warrior or ranger, in which case your downed state is OP anyway. Every other class can avoid getting stomped by proper timing, and let’s face it – if you can’t count down how long it takes to get stomped, you probably aren’t getting up anyway. Stealth stomping is perfectly fair (and this is coming from someone who doesn’t use stealth at all).

Yeah it’s strong, but it’s easy to counter unless you’re in a 1v1 situation (and you’re blinded). If you have some teammates they can still knock back the thief, AoE daze him or focus a high amount of conditions, AoE and direct damage at the area around you.

We also have:

• Stability
• Aegis
• Invulnerability
• Portal
• Shadowstep
• Blind

All these can be used to secure a stomp, and I frankly find stealth to be the easiest one to counter unless you’re alone. If you are alone you’ve already lost, so then I wouldn’t complain about it.

Flag/stake says all. Just shows how much experience iop has in gw2 so noone should take his NURF threads serious. Oh that and his post count which is 1. Stability, invulnurability, haste(rip), shadowstep even blind field stomps in certain situations are way better then stealth stomps.

dwctek.7613:

To ArenaNet Developers

I have heard so many complaints out in the field (in game WvW) about thieves being able to stake/flag other individuals while under stealth/cloaked at the point-of-kill . Are you all going to take that ability away from thieves? Like, when a thief goes to flag/stake an individual the thief comes out of stealth.

I have a level 80 thief and I even feel it’s OP to be able to claim or stake a person while under stealth/cloaked, so I never use the ability to or do it. I know I’m gonna hear it from people, but so what, it’s wrong.

ThanX

Oh yes, another thief asking for nerfs on themselves. You’d have more credibility if you just spoke your feelings. Maybe you should join the bandwagon of people who want to remove downstate all together. Then you don’t need to worry about getting stealth stomped.

Also, I doubt you are a thief otherwise you’d know that stealth is not the same as a guarantee stomp. Unless blind is used, the stomping can be interrupted.

Protip: Cleave the area around the downed body. Problem solved.

One earthshaker will ruin the thief’s day.

Luto.1938:

If they remove the ability to stake when stealth are they also supposed to remove the ability to blackpowder > stake, or stake > shadowstep > shadowreturn > finish stake? I don’t think this should be removed and it’s not really and issue unless you didn’t see a thief go stealth to begin with. If someone is down and you see a thief go stealth you know where he is going to be, just use knock backs/fear/cc/or aoe him. Not that hard to counter stealth stomping as long as you know its happening.

Do know what’s happening when you are blindfolded?

Burnfall.9573:

Luto.1938:

If they remove the ability to stake when stealth are they also supposed to remove the ability to blackpowder > stake, or stake > shadowstep > shadowreturn > finish stake? I don’t think this should be removed and it’s not really and issue unless you didn’t see a thief go stealth to begin with. If someone is down and you see a thief go stealth you know where he is going to be, just use knock backs/fear/cc/or aoe him. Not that hard to counter stealth stomping as long as you know its happening.

Do know what’s happening when you are blindfolded?

In most cases, yes. I use my other senses. Guess work also helps, along with good spatial reasoning.

Burnfall.9573:

Luto.1938:

If they remove the ability to stake when stealth are they also supposed to remove the ability to blackpowder > stake, or stake > shadowstep > shadowreturn > finish stake? I don’t think this should be removed and it’s not really and issue unless you didn’t see a thief go stealth to begin with. If someone is down and you see a thief go stealth you know where he is going to be, just use knock backs/fear/cc/or aoe him. Not that hard to counter stealth stomping as long as you know its happening.

Do know what’s happening when you are blindfolded?

Stealth stomping isn’t as powerful as blind stomping. If you know a thief went stealth then you know he’s there and can predict what he’s going to do and where he’s going to be. In an 1v1 situation if you’re down and the thief isn’t he already won the fight anyways right?

Luto.1938:

Burnfall.9573:

Luto.1938:

If they remove the ability to stake when stealth are they also supposed to remove the ability to blackpowder > stake, or stake > shadowstep > shadowreturn > finish stake? I don’t think this should be removed and it’s not really and issue unless you didn’t see a thief go stealth to begin with. If someone is down and you see a thief go stealth you know where he is going to be, just use knock backs/fear/cc/or aoe him. Not that hard to counter stealth stomping as long as you know its happening.

Do know what’s happening when you are blindfolded?

Stealth stomping isn’t as powerful as blind stomping. If you know a thief went stealth then you know he’s there and can predict what he’s going to do and where he’s going to be. In an 1v1 situation if you’re down and the thief isn’t he already won the fight anyways right?

Mesmers win from downed state a lot 1v1, phatntasmal rogue can hit insanely hard…

Warriors can win from downed state if not blinded or stealth stomped…

Without blinds or stealth or teleports a thief will never stomp a decent player fast especially not in group fights.

Bazzoong.7145:

Luto.1938:

Burnfall.9573:

Luto.1938:

If they remove the ability to stake when stealth are they also supposed to remove the ability to blackpowder > stake, or stake > shadowstep > shadowreturn > finish stake? I don’t think this should be removed and it’s not really and issue unless you didn’t see a thief go stealth to begin with. If someone is down and you see a thief go stealth you know where he is going to be, just use knock backs/fear/cc/or aoe him. Not that hard to counter stealth stomping as long as you know its happening.

Do know what’s happening when you are blindfolded?

Stealth stomping isn’t as powerful as blind stomping. If you know a thief went stealth then you know he’s there and can predict what he’s going to do and where he’s going to be. In an 1v1 situation if you’re down and the thief isn’t he already won the fight anyways right?

Mesmers win from downed state a lot 1v1, phatntasmal rogue can hit insanely hard…

Warriors can win from downed state if not blinded or stealth stomped…

Without blinds or stealth or teleports a thief will never stomp a decent player fast especially not in group fights.

That’s assuming the thief was able to beat a warrior (thieves hard counter).

So, are you in agreement with the OP that stealth stomp should be removed? If so then thieves will only have 2 effective means of stomping and be forced into a utility skill and/or blind traits/weaponskills.

Mesmer’s can and do stealth kill as well, sure they can’t do it quite so often, but why is it always aimed at thieves? Just seems like another thread aimed at complaining about thieves to me.

what about eles?
start stomp, mist form, finish stomp.
WHAT ABOUT THAT? MIST FORM IS INVULNERABLE, U CANT DO ANYTHING TO IT AND U STILL WANT TO NERF OUR STEALTH STOMP?

Do know what’s happening when you are blindfolded?
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Do you genuinely play the game blindfolded? o.O

Even rolling with this daft analogy, you know what’s happening up until the moment you are ‘blindfolded’, and based on that you can make a good guess at what happens in the few seconds afterwards. You see a thief stealth on a downed opponent, you can probably guess what he’s doing and respond appropriately.

Stealth =/= invincibility.

Burnfall.9573:

Luto.1938:

If they remove the ability to stake when stealth are they also supposed to remove the ability to blackpowder > stake, or stake > shadowstep > shadowreturn > finish stake? I don’t think this should be removed and it’s not really and issue unless you didn’t see a thief go stealth to begin with. If someone is down and you see a thief go stealth you know where he is going to be, just use knock backs/fear/cc/or aoe him. Not that hard to counter stealth stomping as long as you know its happening.

Do know what’s happening when you are blindfolded?

This happens…
(If someone can find one of Homer Simpson that would be better)

Staking a vampire won’t kill it you need to cut off head

ens.9854:

Staking a vampire won’t kill it you need to cut off head

Blasphemy!

umm @ OP….

if u do that we will take stability from your character. blocks. invuln. and aegis. K?