[WvW] build help: solo roaming D/P

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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I’ve always enjoyed the rogue type class in mmos, but with the thief i just couldn’t get into. I enjoyed the other classes a lot more. However, after watching some videos, i came to the conclusion that the thief is very good in pvp, specifically running around WvW solo, which is what i mostly do. I came up with this. http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAoaVlYmiO3eS4E/5ExmieuTuHO1oNtTBWtKA-jUyA4LBRKCEhBgIAm8KiGbfoIas6FMlJRUt3oIa1CBYeCA-w
Yes, a D/P stealth abuse build. Since thieves dont have much for passive damage reduction, we need as much active reduction as we can. Stealth, blind and evades provide all that, along with excellent condition cleanse and a 17k health buffer. My crit chance should read 51%, but the site doesn’t count the sigil. I also feel this build has fairly good sustain through heal in stealth and food. Obviously swapping SoA to SoS when running to somewhere.

Runes are iffy. With the orbs i get 4% more crit damage, but if i swap to runes of the Wurm i get 18k health, +3% more damage

Like i said, somewhat new to thief, not new to the game. If anyone could critique and help my build i would appreciate it. Thanks!


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Posted by: Siobhan.3582

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your traits are a little odd assuming you are doing roaming wvw as you said..

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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What do you mean odd? I’ve heard this is the cookie cutter WvW perma stealth d/p build. The 20 in acrobatics and 30 in SA is pretty mandatory i thought, though i do think i could get rid of some vital in favor of precision. With sigil of blood and omnom ghost thats pretty good sustain. With lower health and higher crit. Those two things do even better. But like i said, any suggestions/tips are greatly appreciated!


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Posted by: RedSpectrum.1975

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It’s like Yishi’s DP build, only thing I have to say is, for runes try scholar, see if those help you there. This build Is good, but lacks the damage a typical balanced build, let alone GC, would have thanks to no 30 in CS for Hidden Killer or such, that’s where the scholar runes come in. But wurm is a good alternative as it gives you health whereas scholar gives you power. Utilities are good, Signet of agility is interesting though, I can see why for the prec and endurance refill, but on that same token, you want this to be stealth heavy so black powder would help for a free stealth on demand, but whatever works for you.

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Posted by: wish.1027

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While playing a balanced build you achieve higher DPS while keeping the same EHP using a mix of soldiers and berserkers compared to valkyrie and berserkers. Links to threads containing relevant math can be found by clicking thief in my sig or searching my post history and looking for posts containing lots of numbers.

Since all your gear is exotic you should use soldiers hat, legs, back, and rings, and everything else should be berserkers. If you want a bit more EHP swap in Valk body, if thats still not enough soldiers body.

When you move over to ascended gear you want all berserker ascended pieces, soldiers hat, body, and legs. And then you want your weapons to be Valk or Soldiers depending on how much EHP you feel you need.

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Posted by: UrMom.4205

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I would swap out one of the traits in the shadow arts tree for Patience (X: Regain Initiative faster while in stealth). My perma stealth build has 25 in shadow arts and it’s got V & X never run into the issue of no initiative.

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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAoaVlYmiO3eS4E+5ExmieuTuHO1oNtTBWtKA-jUzAYLBRKCEZBgIAm8UWzeQpvA2HKiGruGTZmUlbk1uAejkKFg5CjA-w
What about something like this? I know you said mix soldiers and berserker but i cant see how to do damage with that as not as much crit damage. I want to be bursty, just not 11k squishy. I basically used yishis d/p build, yeah, and my playstyle is pretty similar to his d/p video as well. Also i tried mixing in lots of different types of gear to get rid of SoA, but couldn’t find a combo to keep ~the 50-55% crit. I also would love a way to get HK but without 20 acrobatics i cannot have perma stealth, and not having 30 in SA in a stealth build is dumb.


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Posted by: Carpboy.7145

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http://gw2skills.net/editor/?fYAQNAoaVlcmiO3eS+E+5Ex2jeuTiy9woKtpdFwKA-jUDBYLCiUEQkFAUBgJPLaN7Jg9BFRjVvATVKp6SRW5CwiGwdgRrWKAzFGB-w
Ok this is definitely the best setup i came up with. I am a bit worried since now i dont really have any condition removal. If i can drop the adept in SA and pickup the condi removal in stealth thats be great, but im worried i wont be able to maintain perma stealth when i want to.

EDIT: i just realized side strike is a waste with HK, since backstabbing will be the main source of damage. Swap for 5% precision into vital?


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Posted by: hihey.1075

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If you plan on roaming, you MUST take the stealth cleanse, otherwise you’ll die the first condition roamer you face.
Going 0-20-30-20-0 is nice. But you Signet of Agility is meh. I’d go for Infiltrator Signet: a reliable stunbreaker and gap closer, with a really nice passive. I use that when things get really bad (such as when a group of people come in during a fight) and have already used every other utility. Lifesaver.
The equipment is NOT good. I have Celestial Helm, Soldier pants and Knights Coat. You do not want berserker-valkyrie gear on head, pants and chest, you lose a huge amount of stats.

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