-Total War: Warhammer
-Guild Wars 2
i got a lvl80
guardian
warrior
necro
Thief
All in full exotics
and after weeks of testing builds etcetc
there is not a single thing a thief is better in something then the others. while also being soooo freaken squishy that its like playing a Glass.
glass yes NOT glass cannon just glass because all of the other 3 can do the same ammount of burst and sustained dmg like the thief if builded for it while having WAY MORE sustain and WAY easyer to play.
WvW outside of roaming ? PFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF garbage
Condition build ? the thief have EVERYTHING for a good condition build. oh wait EVERYONE and their grandma gonna spam remove your bleeds and poisions all day long.
Stealth spamming Burst builds ? if you dont kill your target with everything you got in prety much 15 sec after the opening you sure as hell wont be able to kill it so just better to stealt and sprint away or die while the enemy wears you down. Especialy not againts a good medi guard.
Also 1 or 2 roots or Knocks and you bassicaly get Instakilled.
i tryed MANY build MANY builds and they are just outright downgraded versions of Warriors and guardians.
also Elementalists doing the burst better then a thief WITH MORE SUSTAIN !!! and thats lol.
Thiefs are ONLY and ONLY good againts TOTAL glass cannon builds. or BAD players.
the only thing they have is Stealth Whoopuditu…….
Only i think that the thiefs got a bit tooooo much nerfs ????
We have been hit pretty darn hard with the nerf bat since launch, but we are still many thieves rockin’!
My first question to you: what game mode are you talking about mainly?
WvW: Excellent roamers! We can scout for our commanders and run supply with ease. If we want to live, there’s no way for you to actually kill us. Put us in a zerg – there’s little we can do. We excel at killing backline fighters and casters while the heavies smash together.
PvP: Roamer. Don’t play thief like a warrior, because we ain’t warriors. I play d/p thief in PvP, and 90% of the time I’m on shortbow. My job is to secure kills (dat burst, especially if an ally got an enemy below 50% health), decap far and generally harass my enemey. Because of my mobility I can +1 pretty much any fight on the map within 2-3 seconds. The very high attack speed make it very easy to steal boss kills on Forest. I find thief to be one of the most valuable professions for PvP conquest mode – if they know what they are doing.
PvE: Thief is sqishy, but have high damage and good cleave. I would rather have a warrior on my team, but if the thief know what he is doing he can be a real asset to the team!
So yeah, if you enjoy the gameplay and style of the thief – it is definitely worth playing one! If you don’t like anything of what I said above – then there’s no reason for you to play one atm :/
Edit: Don’t underestimate stealth! It offer some serious mind games – which is very strong in PvP! Dropping shadow refuge near a point will usually end with having 1-2 people staying there while I run off somewhere else to +1 a fight or decap a node.
Oh oh. I don’t like that term, but I think that I need to use it here. Wait, don’t hate me, I know its bad, but I don’t have any other option. L2P
Jeez i said it. Thief is one of the best profession in PvE, sPvP and WvW roaming right now. What else could I respond lol.
first two professions listed : warrior and guardian.
If you intend to play your thief the same way you play your warrior or guardian, yeah you better delete your thief and create another class.
Thief is definitely not for you.
You may have tried many builds, but I guess you mastered none and/or made poor decisions.
(on a side note: thief is a class that isn’t really alt-friendly, like mesmer too)
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Check the dungeons and fractals sub forum. There is this video of a thief soloing mai trin at level 50. Now this is not to say that the other classes you mentioned might not do it faster but it does prove one thing and that is knowing the specific encounter is key in playing any squishy class.
Also because of its inherent squishiness it is very poor class to just pick up and play but I guarantee that if you give it time you will learn better timing and things like better initiate management.
Besides having the best mobility of any class, as well as the best single-target DPS, there’s no point.
meanwhile on pvp forums ppl cry that thieves are the reason for current meta lol
meanwhile on pvp forums ppl cry that thieves are the reason for current meta lol
And so, in a weird way, all is balanced.
Thieves are the only good class for solo roaming. others will get zerged down by immob spam/are low mobility/are countered by thieves
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