backstabing when in face sPVP

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Posted by: gesho.9468

gesho.9468

Q:

i played d/p thief with daze on steal.

what is a good way in sPVP burst on enemy who’s facing you? im missing out some 1v1 fights for it. i usually
precast black powder
steal
heartseek
move through the player
aboutface
backstab

is this the way to do it?

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Posted by: Littlefeather.8623

Littlefeather.8623

Kill it with stab.

Crazy Leg

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Posted by: Zephyric Reaper.3049

Zephyric Reaper.3049

Depends on the game mode. PvP you might want to spend the least time on stealth, thus making a front stab is not SO bad as long as you apply pressure on your opponent without taking much damage. On WvW you want to get backstabs to get the player running but never spend much time trying to get the back for them to panic and run away too far from you.
The idea is that you don’t die, deal damage and your opponent doesn’t escape so backstab isn’t priority no.1

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Posted by: gesho.9468

gesho.9468

Depends on the game mode. PvP you might want to spend the least time on stealth, thus making a front stab is not SO bad as long as you apply pressure on your opponent without taking much damage. On WvW you want to get backstabs to get the player running but never spend much time trying to get the back for them to panic and run away too far from you.
The idea is that you don’t die, deal damage and your opponent doesn’t escape so backstab isn’t priority no.1

yeah, i meant sPVP.

without “from back” the whole thing turns lackluster, i might as well auto attack with bow.

it’s not so much about overall tactics but rather keyboard sequence. is there a trick way to get behind the guy who faces you other than walk though and aboutface?

i could use shadowstep probably: port behind and then repeat the sequence, but shadowstep feels too precious to waste for this.

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Posted by: Ghostwolf.9863

Ghostwolf.9863

This is one of the reasons thieves will struggle in 1v1s at higher skill levels,
it can be incredibly difficult to land good burst.

While at lower skill level the opponent might drop some AoE and expect the thief to come out of stealth with a bouquet of flowers, but as soon as they realize the thief will take them from behind, they squeal like the tiny dogs they are and enter the forum seeking for nerfs.

Ah, so burst was it. Dodge all crap that will affect the fight (CC) or nearly kill you,
if dodge is on cooldown use #3 for blind and a nice amount of dmg, against channeled skills and defensive skills with cast time use #4, never underestimate this button, and never underestimate unloading auto-attack chains along with blackpowder if needed.

Backstab, unless you gain anything from stealth (waiting out cds, AoEs or buffs for instance) end it quickly to keep pressure or contest, if you are unable to backstab, either frontstab or shadow shot and heartseeker if the opponent is low hp, if the opponent is facing his back towards you but you’re out of range for backstab you can do one of the following combos pressing these things nearly simultaneously with priority on what’s first:

Backstab>Steal
Backstab>Infiltrator’s Signet
Backstab>Infiltrator’s Signet>Steal
Shadow Shot>Backstab

Against low hp replace backstab with heartseeker for the 3 first.

And yeah, walking through your opponent and turn is a good way, so is shadowstep and backstab, although shadowstep is the utility I would least want to have on cd.

Thief, Engineer, Mesmer – Seafarer’s Rest (EU)

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Posted by: gesho.9468

gesho.9468

@Ghostwolf.9863 thx buddy, good stuff

if the opponent is facing his back towards you but you’re out of range for backstab you can do one of the following combos pressing these things nearly simultaneously with priority on what’s first:
Backstab>Steal

1/4 sec backstab cast time, this is not exactly piece of cake.

i took 50% speed in stealth, see if that helps.

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Posted by: Mystogan.4157

Mystogan.4157

if ur using d/p you can go stealth go behind the enemy, shadow shot with a quick auto and you should get a back stab off.

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