Guild Wars 2

is it just me or is anyone getting tired of the cleave on daggers?

all u do now is stack conditions on your self when fighting mesmers lol

it is indeed annoying, especially when target and his allies have perma retal

i did say it will happen but ppl keep claiming it is huge buff

all it really did is take diversity from out weapon set … cant say that is ever a good thing

before we had sword for cleave and dagger for single target there was options

now if u want to attack single target the only weapon we have is pistol :l lol
and that’s with out the trait to ricochet

Indirect nerf to venom too, like it needed this. Now i waste my pityful stacks on turrets and AIs alike.

I like the cleave on daggers a lot actually. Now I can cleave on a downed body being rezzed without having to swap to SB.

The “nerf” is only VERY situational. Also, you shouldn’t be fighting PU mesmers anyway, just laugh at them and leave: it’s not your fault if they can’t play.
Speaking of mesmers, the cleave is really good against shatters. Now if they use Decoy, they will still get hit (before, the clone bodyblocked the damage). And there are much more situations that make the dagger cleave a buff.
I really liked this change ^^

It’s a buff for PVE, including taking camps solo. Theif is probably one of the best solo PVE classes.

Being a theif and being in cleave distance of multiple players in PvP/WvW is not usually a good idea anyway.

I have definitely seen it as a buff especially for cleaving the downed and a rezzer

Also taking camps faster

this is a not a full cleave to begin with, only 2 targets… So I think it’s a good change.
What’s weird however is that now Dagger AA chain does less DPS than the sword’s(while the sword hits more targets), and the side benefits(endurance+poison vs weakness/cripple) are pretty similarly rewarding.

ill agree to disagree u may call it a buff but i dont like it XD
if i had the choice i would say u can keep the buff to hunt downed players better.

just one more step away from the single target burst class we all started playing

venom share
support venom heal
cleave on daggers

Evalia.7103:

this is a not a full cleave to begin with, only 2 targets… So I think it’s a good change.
What’s weird however is that now Dagger AA chain does less DPS than the sword’s(while the sword hits more targets), and the side benefits(endurance+poison vs weakness/cripple) are pretty similarly rewarding.

It’s a bit weird, but keep in mind that the sneak attack on dagger ‘compensates’ a bit for this, and also that dagger attacks much faster, which benefits procs substantially.

I’m gonna miss the finesse of single target daggers next time the Pavillion comes around. They were excellent of the Ogre boss.