Guild Wars 2

I feel like the thief just ends up outgunned on all aspects (unless using thieves guild), not quite sure how you would win. Almost as hopeless a matchup as* S/D ele.
Whirlwind – 5k dmg
Volley – 2.5k per tick (10k)
rifle f1 – 11k, near oneshot (with valk/zerk gear + toughness traits or it would be an ohko)
100b – instant kill with frenzy/charge

backstab – 5k dmg (vs those warriors)

I guess it might be doable with smoke screen to survive rifle damage + dodging every whirlwind? Maybe pick up dagger storm for the proj reflect/stability?

Honestly, switch to Shbow and whittle them down.
When they switch to rifle, steal and use Whirlwind axe (be careful for Rifle butt, or whatever their melee KB is). Only switch to D/D when they’re in Burst range.

evilapprentice.6379:

Honestly, switch to Shbow and whittle them down.
When they switch to rifle, steal and use Whirlwind axe (be careful for Rifle butt, or whatever their melee KB is). Only switch to D/D when they’re in Burst range.

I forget, does the warrior steal have proj reflect now? Didn’t think of that.

Yeah, its projectile reflect instead of evade now (which is why we have to watch out for rifle butt)

You aren’t going to kill a warrior in a single burst. Ever. Unless they are full zerker’s themselves.

I’ve learned that it helps to carry around haste as my 3rd utlity, despite me preferring shadow refuge/shadow step.

They survive the initial burst damage but the 5+ auto attacks you get out after it, completely melt them.

As a BS thief you need to feint and close in for the kill. As a S/P thief I just have 2 shadow step in, pop haste and PW x2 for 22k dmg to burst him down. If they don’t know what you can do yeah…ownage.

Make them use their rifle if possible, and apply blinding.

This is based more on my time as a warrior than a thief. Outside of volley, rifle has slow attacks, so blind hurts it quite a bit. Outside of frenzy and HB, GS has slow attacks too. Smoke screen with its new buff/fix would be nice since you can blind them in melee range or block projectiles at longer range. Dagger storm if you could reflect a good volley or killshot might flatten them. Off hand pistol w/ dagger #3 and #6 or short bow #6 could help.

Rifle/GS Warrior ,just as BS ,is a bad build..but as a thief , in any kind of build , you have the upper hand against those type of warriors.Theres absolutely nothing they can do.If they use GS use shortbow .They wont be able to touch you.If they use rifle go melee range and so on.That build is only OP in PvE and yes it should be done something about it.