Guild Wars 2

And I’m Mesmer maine since beta of the game and i cant finde eny info abouth thief buffs. Like will thiefs get crit on steal back or evede on hearseeker? If not its all good eaven evade on heartseeker fine take it xD I loved old state of power were thiefs were hardcounter to mesmers than you could feel superior when you beat thief and when you lost xD it was bc thiefs is hardcounter to Mesmer >O but seriously enlighten me please whats going on i was away from game for month did not like all the bunker stuff

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/414soi/skill_balance_preview_livestream_notes/

Here are the livestream notes.

Dagger AA is getting buffed by 30%. Sword AA will get a speed increase (30%) being stronger than rev sword AA now and acrobatics is getting some sustain improvements. Withdraw is getting the 10% heal buff that it was supposed to have.

other than the mysterious staff damage increase seems fine xD i was once hit 12k by vault skill on staff staff secry xD

Varezenem.2813:

Dagger AA is getting buffed by 30%. Sword AA will get a speed increase (30%) being stronger than rev sword AA now and acrobatics is getting some sustain improvements. Withdraw is getting the 10% heal buff that it was supposed to have.

Better than Rev sword autoattack? What are you smoking..?

Not complaining, I love the sword buffs but Rev sword auto will still be better.

http://i.imgur.com/ZON2eTT.png you won’t do this with thief sword.

baylock.1703:

other than the mysterious staff damage increase seems fine xD i was once hit 12k by vault skill on staff staff secry xD

That vault won’t hit any harder after the patch. The damage increase is only on the AA.

Petoox.6570:

Varezenem.2813:

Dagger AA is getting buffed by 30%. Sword AA will get a speed increase (30%) being stronger than rev sword AA now and acrobatics is getting some sustain improvements. Withdraw is getting the 10% heal buff that it was supposed to have.

Better than Rev sword autoattack? What are you smoking..?

Not complaining, I love the sword buffs but Rev sword auto will still be better.

http://i.imgur.com/ZON2eTT.png you won’t do this with thief sword.

Rev sword chain has a modifier of 3.15 (after patch 2.735) and takes 2.04 seconds having a 1.544 dps* (after patch 1.34 dps).
Thief sword chain has a modifier of 2.9 and takes currently 2.52 after patch it’ll take 1.93 secs which is a 1.5 dps.
*dps in this case refers to the power modifier divided by the amount of time it takes to execute the chain.

The quickness on Rev will make it keep hitting harder in longer fights. That said, without permanent quickness on the rev, the thief sword AA will have the best AA DPS in the game as of what is known now (staff likely will be better, though, because powercreep in HoT). It already does better than D/x on the AA and has huge coefficients per hit, rivaling the Revenant and dealing more damage on its last hit in the chain than the Rev can offer per hit.

Yeah i am not quite sure if S/x needed better dps on AA (or d/x for that matter). WTB more ways of landing dmg and deal with aoe/CC than plain damage buffs that will get this class nerfed within a month.

Varezenem.2813:

Petoox.6570:

Varezenem.2813:

Dagger AA is getting buffed by 30%. Sword AA will get a speed increase (30%) being stronger than rev sword AA now and acrobatics is getting some sustain improvements. Withdraw is getting the 10% heal buff that it was supposed to have.

Better than Rev sword autoattack? What are you smoking..?

Not complaining, I love the sword buffs but Rev sword auto will still be better.

http://i.imgur.com/ZON2eTT.png you won’t do this with thief sword.

Rev sword chain has a modifier of 3.15 (after patch 2.735) and takes 2.04 seconds having a 1.544 dps* (after patch 1.34 dps).
Thief sword chain has a modifier of 2.9 and takes currently 2.52 after patch it’ll take 1.93 secs which is a 1.5 dps.
*dps in this case refers to the power modifier divided by the amount of time it takes to execute the chain.

The controllable quickness makes up for the difference. I think they finally decided to buff our autos because we lack huge might stacks and controllable buffs. Since we lack the boon access, our flat damage and animations are getting improved much like what they mentioned they were doing to warrior (who also lacks boons outside of some mediocre might access).

Maugetarr.6823:

Varezenem.2813:

Petoox.6570:

Varezenem.2813:

Dagger AA is getting buffed by 30%. Sword AA will get a speed increase (30%) being stronger than rev sword AA now and acrobatics is getting some sustain improvements. Withdraw is getting the 10% heal buff that it was supposed to have.

Better than Rev sword autoattack? What are you smoking..?

Not complaining, I love the sword buffs but Rev sword auto will still be better.

http://i.imgur.com/ZON2eTT.png you won’t do this with thief sword.

Rev sword chain has a modifier of 3.15 (after patch 2.735) and takes 2.04 seconds having a 1.544 dps* (after patch 1.34 dps).
Thief sword chain has a modifier of 2.9 and takes currently 2.52 after patch it’ll take 1.93 secs which is a 1.5 dps.
*dps in this case refers to the power modifier divided by the amount of time it takes to execute the chain.

The controllable quickness makes up for the difference. I think they finally decided to buff our autos because we lack huge might stacks and controllable buffs. Since we lack the boon access, our flat damage and animations are getting improved much like what they mentioned they were doing to warrior (who also lacks boons outside of some mediocre might access).

In the pve side of things quickness is provided by a chronomancer for PvP using IO is a bad idea in many cases since it locks you out of your defensive skills. Of course if you for some are being barely targeted you might have the energy for it.

I am a bit surprised that the thief sword auto-attack is getting a buff. It already hits for substantial damage (full chain on a maxed vuln tower lord is north of 20k), applies weakness and cripples.

Petoox.6570:

Varezenem.2813:

Dagger AA is getting buffed by 30%. Sword AA will get a speed increase (30%) being stronger than rev sword AA now and acrobatics is getting some sustain improvements. Withdraw is getting the 10% heal buff that it was supposed to have.

Better than Rev sword autoattack? What are you smoking..?

Not complaining, I love the sword buffs but Rev sword auto will still be better.

http://i.imgur.com/ZON2eTT.png you won’t do this with thief sword.

after patch it wont. they nerfing rev sword dmg.

Sandrox.9524:

Petoox.6570:

Varezenem.2813:

Dagger AA is getting buffed by 30%. Sword AA will get a speed increase (30%) being stronger than rev sword AA now and acrobatics is getting some sustain improvements. Withdraw is getting the 10% heal buff that it was supposed to have.

Better than Rev sword autoattack? What are you smoking..?

Not complaining, I love the sword buffs but Rev sword auto will still be better.

http://i.imgur.com/ZON2eTT.png you won’t do this with thief sword.

after patch it wont. they nerfing rev sword dmg.

Not enough to offset the benefits from quickness and the multi-hit from rift. It’ll be close, but DPS will favor the rev.

One build I had tried which was quite fun was one with high boon durations when the Flanking strikes trait got that double reduction from trickster. I worked my boon duration up to where the quickness from it lasted a full 9 seconds and then threw haste on the utility bar as well.

Basically I was getting 18 seconds every 48 with a posssibility of a reset on improv. 9 seconds of haste at a time. Man that hit hard and fast. With buffed AA it might be worth considering again as quickness it not really all that great with INI skills.